That is our concern: how the world is misdirected. That we are challenging, this Krsna consciousness. It is not that "East," "West," "you," "I." Everyone is a victim. Bhagavata says, prayena kalau asmin yuge janah: "In this age everyone is condemned"

Expressions researched:
"That is our concern: how the world is misdirected. That we are challenging, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is not that" |"East" |"West" |"Everyone is a victim. Bhāgavata says" |"In this age everyone is condemned" |" It doesn't say that" |"These Eastern, Western" |"Everyone is condemned"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1977 Conversations and Morning Walks

That is our concern: how the world is misdirected. That we are challenging, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is not that "East," "West," "you," "I." Everyone is a victim. Bhāgavata says, prāyena kalau asmin yuge janāḥ (SB 1.1.10): "In this age everyone is condemned." It doesn't say that "These Eastern, Western." Everyone is condemned. Kalau asmin yuge janāḥ. That is impartial.

770106 - Conversation A - Bombay

Prabhupāda: Forefathers may be saintly person, but we are not. Why do you say "we"?

Dr. Patel: "We" means the descendants of our forefathers.

Prabhupāda: My father might have been very rich man, but I am a poverty-stricken man, loitering in the street. Why say "we"?

Dr. Patel: "We" means these Aryans in India, they brought all the Vedas and Vedic culture with them. They must have taken it in.

Prabhupāda: That's all right. One who is speaking, he is not in Vedic culture. That is the difficulty.

Dr. Patel: I talk of these historical facts, sir. Historically, Eastern European races are just our cousin. I mean the Indian races. But still, they have not been able to take the . . .

Prabhupāda: This, falsely to become proud: "We," "We have done." What I am at the present? That is to be taken, not that . . . now in Bengal . . . "Fourteen generations before my father took ghee, and I have got a smell." (laughs) What is that? Whether you are eating ghee or not, (laughter) that is talk, not that, "Fourteen generations before my father and forefathers ate ghee, and I have got the smell here." (laughs)

Dr. Patel: No, we talk of Vedic culture, sir.

Prabhupāda: Vedic culture is all right now. There is no question of "we" or "you."

Dr. Patel: But why it is not with them?

Prabhupāda: Why it is not with you? First of all say why you are challenging them? (laughter) First of all challenge yourself.

Dr. Patel: (laughing) That's right. But they have not . . . their forefathers have got. We have at least with our forefathers.

Prabhupāda: No, no, their forefathers are the Aryans, the same forefathers, your forefathers.

Dr. Patel: They're Aryans, but they did not take the Vedic culture with them.

Prabhupāda: They did not take; you are not taking. That's the same thing.

Dr. Patel: Actually, presently the whole world is the same.

Prabhupāda: That's all right. That is our concern: how the world is misdirected. That we are challenging, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is not that, "East," "West," "you," "I." Everyone is a victim. Bhāgavata says, prāyena kalau asmin yuge janāḥ (SB 1.1.10): "In this age everyone is condemned." It doesn't say that, "These Eastern, Western." Everyone is condemned. Kalau asmin yuge janāḥ. That is impartial.