Haṁsadūta: In the Bhagavad-gītā Kṛṣṇa also, He says to Arjuna, "What need is there of all this knowledge? Just know that with one spark of My splendor I am pervading everything."
Prabhupāda: That's all. How He is doing that, it is very difficult to know. (pause) Jñāne prayāsam udapasya namanta eva san-mukharitaṁ bhavadīya-vārtāṁ jīvanti. (break) ...in temple you'll have to sleep. Yes. So also keep it in mind that unless there are four, five devotees experienced, we should not center, open a center. Because alone he becomes polluted. Without any association, he thinks otherwise and becomes fallen down. That which has happened to Kṛṣṇa dāsa. When he was alone, he could not manage. There was debts and he became disgusted. You see.
Haṁsadūta: What about, Prabhupāda, in Germany, I have, like for instance, in Munchen, in Munich...
Prabhupāda: At least, must be two, three men; otherwise don't open.
Haṁsadūta: Yes, there are two, three men, but I visit them regularly.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. Visit. Keep them alive. "Simply because we have opened a center, the business is finished." No. You must keep them alive. Alive means this morning class must go on, evening class must go on, there must be regular program for prasāda distribution. Busy. That is alive.
Revatīnandana: And they must also study your books.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Otherwise, so many Indian temples or churches, they think, "The church is there; everything is finished." No. Why people are losing interest in church? There is no preaching. Neither do they know what is preaching. They simply think that "This building will attract people." So they are now on sale.
Revatīnandana: In Calcutta it was like that. Everywhere we attract people with the Deity worship, but we hold them with the lectures.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) Come on. So how you were allowed to enter?
Śivānanda: Oh, it was all right. No difficulty. No difficulty.
Prabhupāda: Last time you had difficulty.
Śivānanda: No. Last year it was all right also. But before that it was...
Prabhupāda: Before that. So what news?
Śivānanda: Nice place in Heidelburg. Kṛṣṇa gave us a very nice temple there.
Prabhupāda: Your health is all right?
Śivānanda: My health is fine.
Prabhupāda: Thank you. You are the pioneer of European activities.
Śivānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: From Montreal, you were pushed. Yes. And from San Francisco, Gaurasundara was pushed to Hawaii. (chuckles) So Śivānanda Prabhu was also pushed from Montreal. So Kṛṣṇa is very much pleased. And Sudama was pushed to Japan. Now, anyway, that pushing has not become unsuccessful. (end)