Amogha: They seem happy, but . . . the devotees of Kṛṣṇa seem happy, but they don't do much practical work. They always sing and dance and ask for some money. But they don't work any practical thing. We're doing so many practical things.
Prabhupāda: Dancing is not working? And writing book is not working? Selling book is not working? What is working then? Hmm? Like monkey jumping? Yes? That is working?
Amogha: But we are helping people practically, like in the hospital or the alcoholics . . .
Prabhupāda: No, what . . . how you are helping? Do you think if one goes to hospital he will not die? And how you are helping? You are thinking you are helping.
Paramahaṁsa: But he lives longer.
Prabhupāda: That is another foolishness. How long you will live? When the time of death comes, you will not live longer even by a moment. When a man is going to die, his life is finished. Can your injection, medicine, give one minute's life more? Is there any medicine?
Paramahaṁsa: Well, there seems to be.
Prabhupāda: No . . .
Paramahaṁsa: Sometimes when they give medicine, they live longer.
Amogha: They say that by perfecting heart transplant they may make people live . . .
Paramahaṁsa: They say that by perfecting heart transplant they may make people live . . .
Prabhupāda: They may say, they . . . because we take them as rascals, why shall I take their words? We should consider them a rascals, that's all. (someone shouts nastily in background—Prabhupāda barks at them) (laughter) Another rascal. He is enjoying life. So the world is full of rascals. We must be very much pessimistic, not at all optimistic of this world. Unless you become pessimistic, you will not be able to go back to home. If you have little attraction for this world—"It is good"—then you have to remain here. Yes. Kṛṣṇa is so strict.