Yogeśvara: Prabhupāda knows about the story. He knows the incident. He was found innocent by who? By a court?
Devotee: Yes, by the whole government. He had done some cheating and campaign, making secret tape recordings against the other party.
Prabhupāda: He did?
Devotee: Yes.
Prabhupāda: And still he is innocent?
Devotee: Yes. He paid so many millions, thousands and thousands of dollars. His party, the Republican party, they put microphones and everything in the convention of the Democrats, and had spies and everything, in order that he could find out their tricks. He had paid all these men, and they were all fired.
Prabhupāda: So that is not bad, because in politics you have to do that. (laughter) Everyone does so. What is Nixon's fault?
Devotee: But only he got caught. And all of his men quit.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Suppose you are my rival. So I wanted to know your secrecies, so I make some mechanical arrangement. That is not fault. That is not . . . everyone does so. Why do you expect that he will not do that? He must do that. If you are my rival or enemy, to know your secrecy I must endeavor to do everything. As you are doing, so I am.
Devotee: They were bribing men. They had paid them money and everything to do these things.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So bribing men, everywhere it is going on.
Devotee: According to the American government it is illegal to . . . each person has his own plans, and it is illegal to find out the other's. But now they said he is innocent.
Prabhupāda: Court says.