Hari-śauri: (looking in dictionary) "Brainwashing: clearing the mind of established ideas by persistent suggestion and indoctrination."
Prabhupāda: That is . . . (chuckles) We are doing that. They, they are under the impression, "Work hard, earn money and enjoy life." We say, "No. Don't work hard for sense gratification but work hard for self-realization." Indoctrine.
Hari-śauri: Yep well, any form of education is indoctrination.
Prabhupāda: Indoctrinization. Yes. Any kind of education is.
Hari-śauri: Whatever you teach someone, you teach according to whatever you see as the correct value.
Prabhupāda: Yes. The child goes to the school. His brain is packed up, "I shall play all day." He likes that, to play, but it is indoctrinization that "No, you should read. You must become graduate."
Hari-śauri: Yes. And whatever country he's born in, he has to learn the culture of that country; he's indoctrinated.
Prabhupāda: Apart from that, education is required. The child wants to play, but we have to educate him that "No, play is not all. You have to be educated."
Hari-śauri: Yeah.
Prabhupāda: Similarly, this animal life—eating, sleeping, mating—this is already there. No. We say: "Not only this, you have to realize God." This kind of brainwash is required. If we do not understand God, then what is the difference between you and dog? He knows how to eat, how to sleep. He doesn't require any high education . . . (indistinct) . . . how to eat. Everyone knows how to eat, how to use sex. Nobody requires any university education.
Hari-śauri: Simply ignorance.
Prabhupāda: When the animal enjoy sex, they know which part of the body has to be used.
Hari-śauri: They don't have to be taught.
Prabhupāda: It is not, there is no need of education. He knows it. And these rascals, they are presenting Freud's philosophy, sex. Just see how they are wasting time.
Hari-śauri: They have so many books now on so-called sex education, so many of them.
Prabhupāda: Simply wasting time. There is a story about this. One man was canvassing, hawking. Hawker?
Hari-śauri: Yes, hawker.
Prabhupāda: So he was, "Here is a book of cow protection," cow protection. He has written one book to take care of the cows. So when old man called him, "What you are selling?" Now, "I am selling this book." "What is that book?" "Maintaining the cow." So, "Why you are selling? First of all you give this book to your mother, because you are no better than cow, so she will learn how to give you protection." That means he wanted to impress upon him that, "Cow protection doesn't require any education. You have written a book? So you are such a rascal, cow intelligence. Better give this book to your mother. She will maintain you. Don't sell it. Everyone knows how to give cow protection." So similarly, this sex literature, there is no need of sex literature.