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| We should not take Kṛṣṇa as one of us, because He is bhūtānām īśvaraḥ. Bhūtānām īśvaro 'pi san. Just like a crude example may be given: When there was independence movement, Mahatma Gandhi went to jail, and many, many big leaders. But there are other criminals also, pickpockets and thieves and murderers. If they would think, "Now Mahatma Gandhi has come into jail. We are the same. We are the same," no. Similarly, when Kṛṣṇa comes, if the rascals and fools think that "Kṛṣṇa is also like us, as we have come into this material world," they are fools. No. We are forced. Just like criminal, a pickpocket or a thief, a rogue, a murderer, he is forced to... So of course, here, Mahatma Gandhi was also forced. But that is not the case. Because He is the controller. Bhūtānām īśvaro 'pi san. He... The material energy cannot force Kṛṣṇa. Because He's īśvaraḥ. He's the controller. A controller cannot be forced. Just like in the British constitution it is said that "A king can do no wrong." Even king appears to do..., have done something wrong, he does not come within the law. Similarly, although Kṛṣṇa has killed so many demons, does not mean that He's criminal. He is still the bhūtānām īśvaraḥ. He's still. That is to be understood.
| | Kṛṣṇa, superficially He has done so many things which is sinful for others. Just like this is . . . these are very, the great subject matters. This was questioned by Parīkṣit Mahārāja. Parīkṣit Mahārāja, when He danced with the girls of Vrajabhūmi, ''rāsa'' dance, so Parīkṣit Mahārāja inquired from Śukadeva Gosvāmī that, "Kṛṣṇa, who came to establish the principles of religion, how He danced with girls and wives of others?" That was explained that ''tejīyasāṁ na doṣāya'' ([[vanisource:SB 10.33.29|SB 10.33.29]]). ''Tejīyasāṁ na doṣāya''. Kṛṣṇa danced with others' wife or sister or other girls. They were all girls. They came at mid of . . . midnight to dance with Him. But they were also not material. That is spiritual. It requires little brain to understand. So Parīkṣit Mahārāja . . . Śukadeva Gosvāmī explained that these things should not be considered by the conditioned soul. They should not even dream of this. It is a different thing. And if you think that Kṛṣṇa has a fault because He danced with others' wives, so he explained that ''tejīyasāṁ na doṣāya. Tejīyasām'' . . . the . . . a thing which is very, very powerful, he is not contaminated. That is the conclusion. Just like the sun. The sun soaks water from urine. We pass urine somewhere, and the sun soaks the water, the urine. That . . . that is poisonous. That is infectious. But that sun does not become infected, because he's so powerful. If that is possible for ordinary, material things, how much powerful is Kṛṣṇa? |
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| Kṛṣṇa, superficially He has done so many things which is sinful for others. Just like this is... These are very, the great subject matters. This was questioned by Parīkṣit Mahārāja. Parīkṣit Mahārāja, when He danced with the girls of Vrajabhūmi, rāsa dance, so Parīkṣit Mahārāja inquired from Śukadeva Gosvāmī that "Kṛṣṇa, who came to establish the principles of religion, how He danced with girls and wives of others?" That was explained that tejīyasāṁ na doṣāya ([[Vanisource:SB 10.33.29|SB 10.33.29]]). Tejīyasāṁ na doṣāya. Kṛṣṇa danced with others' wife or sister or other girls. They were all girls. They came at mid of..., midnight to dance with Him. But they were also not material. That is spiritual. It requires little brain to understand. So Parīkṣit Mahārāja... Śukadeva Gosvāmī explained that these things should not be considered by the conditioned soul. They should not even dream of this. It is a different thing. And if you think that Kṛṣṇa has a fault because He danced with others' wives, so he explained that tejīyasāṁ na doṣāya. Tejīyasām... The... A thing which is very, very powerful, he is not contaminated. That is the conclusion. Just like the sun. The sun soaks water from urine. We pass urine somewhere, and the sun soaks the water, the urine. That... That is poisonous. That is infectious. But that sun does not become infected, because he's so powerful. If that is possible for ordinary, material things, how much powerful is Kṛṣṇa? | |
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| So we should not discuss the rāsa-līlā generally. Because unless one is advanced in spiritual consciousness and Kṛṣṇa consciousness, they should not try to understand what is rāsa-līlā. It is very confidential. It is meant for the liberated souls, those who are liberated by devotional service. Actually, those who are engaged in devotional service, they are liberated. They are not within the material world.
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| So this rāsa-līlā is to relished by the paramahaṁsas, liberated souls. Nivṛtta-tarṣair upagīyamānāt ([[Vanisource:SB 10.1.4|SB 10.1.4]]). Vāstavaṁ vedyam. Dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavo 'tra paramo nirmatsarāṇām ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.2|SB 1.1.2]]). Paramo nirmatsarāṇām. Vāstavaṁ vastu vedyam atra. So we should not jump. First of all we should read Bhagavad-gītā very carefully. Try to understand Kṛṣṇa, what is Kṛṣṇa. Then we shall be fit to understand what is Bhāgavatam. The last conclusion of Bhagavad-gītā is sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66|BG 18.66]]). If we can surrender to Kṛṣṇa wholeheartedly, then we become eligible to understand what is Kṛṣṇa. That is the... Bhaktyā mām abhijānāti ([[Vanisource:BG 18.55|BG 18.55]]). We, if we are advanced in devotional service, then we become fit to understand Kṛṣṇa.
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| | So we should not discuss the ''rāsa-līlā'' generally. Because unless one is advanced in spiritual consciousness and Kṛṣṇa consciousness, they should not try to understand what is ''rāsa-līlā.'' It is very confidential. It is meant for the liberated souls, those who are liberated by devotional service. Actually, those who are engaged in devotional service, they are liberated. They are not within the material world. |
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