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| <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> | | <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> |
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| <div class="heading">They should not be proud that "I am brāhmaṇa." No. As you are required, as much, the śūdra is also required. It is not that only the brāhmaṇas are required. This is a very scientific movement. | | <div class="heading">They should not be proud that "I am brāhmaṇa." No. As you are required, as much, the śūdra is also required. It is not that only the brāhmaṇas are required. This is a very scientific movement. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Press Representative -- March 21, 1975, Calcutta|Room Conversation with Press Representative -- March 21, 1975, Calcutta]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (Bengali) Suppose everyone becomes head. Then where is this supply of hands and legs? We do not say that everyone become brain. The brain is ordering, and who will carry the order? The order-carrier must be there, but they must carry order of the brāhmaṇa. Then it will be all right. The brain must be there, and the legs must be there. The legs must move by the dictation of the brain. Then it is perfect. It is not expected also that everyone will become brāhmaṇa. Therefore guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ. Everyone has got his particular qualities. So we have to utilize—what quality does he belong? But at the present moment the difficulty is that they do not care that in the society there must be a class of brain, brāhmaṇa. That they do not know. They want everyone should become a śūdra, the Communists life, worker, "Work." And therefore they have not been successful. The whole nation is worker, and who will give the brain?</p> | | |
| <p>Guest: The whole nation is worker?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, Communist country, they want simply worker. But still, they have to create manager. Why manager created? Let everyone become worker. Now, Communist country also, although they say worker, but why they are creating manager?</p>
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| <p>Guest: (Bengali)</p>
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Press Representative -- March 21, 1975, Calcutta|Room Conversation with Press Representative -- March 21, 1975, Calcutta]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;"> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Whatever it may be, you are in need of manager. You are in need of manager. You cannot deny another class of men of manager, so why not make the best manager, the brāhmaṇa, who is truthful, who is equal, satya śamaḥ damaḥ, who is control of his senses, satya śamaḥ damaḥ titikṣa, who is tolerant? These are the brahminical qualification. Satya śamaḥ damaḥ titikṣa. Who is simple, not hypocrite. Everyone is hypocrite. So why there should not be a class who is not hypocrite? All politicians saying something in the mouth and doing something else, because they are śūdra. So this is very scientific. How it not be scientific? It is spoken by God. Cātur-varnyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 4.13|BG 4.13]]). Required. Just like in this institution, I am guru, and if everyone becomes guru, then who will carry out the order of guru? There must be disciple also, who will carry out the order of guru. So it is not required... Just like in your body, it is not that body is made of head only, but head is required. You cannot avoid head, neither you can avoid the leg. So śūdra required, the brāhmaṇa required, the kṣatriya required, and the vaiśya required. And the society should be very nicely managed. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, cātur-varṇyaṁ. Why does He not say one varṇa, brāhmaṇa? Naturally there must be division because all men are not of the same quality. You cannot expect. So whatever quality he has got, utilize that. Aṇḍha-khañja-nyāya. Aṇḍha-khañja-nyāya. The one man is lame, and one man is blind. So both are useless. So they combine together. The lame man was taken on the shoulder of the blind man. So the lame man has no leg, but he has got eyes. He was directing, "Go this way." So both their business was perfect. Similarly, according to the quality of the work, there must be a class of men less intelligent. They cannot independently work. They must require a master. That is śūdra. And then the vaiśya, then the kṣatriya, and the upper man is brāhmaṇa. He gives the direction to the kṣatriya. He is ruler.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Just like in your body, it is not that body is made of head only, but head is required. You cannot avoid head, neither you can avoid the leg. So ''śūdra'' required, the ''brāhmaṇa'' required, the ''kṣatriya'' required and the ''vaiśya ''required. And the society should be very nicely managed. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, ''cātur-varṇyaṁ''. Why does He not say one ''varṇa, brāhmaṇa''? Naturally there must be division, because all men are not of the same quality. You cannot expect. So whatever quality he has got, utilize that. ''Aṇḍha-khañja-nyāya. Aṇḍha-khañja-nyāya''. The one man is lame, and one man is blind. So both are useless. So they combine together. The lame man was taken on the shoulder of the blind man. So the lame man has no leg, but he has got eyes. He was directing, "Go this way." So both their business was perfect. Similarly, according to the quality of the work, there must be a class of man less intelligent. They cannot independently work. They must require a master. That is ''śūdra''. And then the ''vaiśya'', then the ''kṣatriya'', and the upper man is ''brāhmaṇa''. He gives the direction to the ''kṣatriya''. He is ruler. |
| <p>Guest: (Bengali)</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, (Bengali) ...really classless society. They should not be proud that "I am brāhmaṇa." No. As you are required, as much, the śūdra is also required. It is not that only the brāhmaṇas are required. This is a very scientific movement. (Bengali) It is not a bogus sentimental thing. It is a very scientific movement. It is not so-called yogi and swami and everything equal. And where is equality?</p>
| | Guest: (Bengali) |
| <p>Guest: The Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is a scientific movement?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Most scientific.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Yes, (Bengali) . . . really classless society. They should not be proud that, "I am ''brāhmaṇa''." No. As you are required, as much, the ''śūdra'' is also required. It is not that only the ''brāhmaṇas'' are required. This is a very scientific movement. (Bengali) It is not a bogus, sentimental thing. It is a very scientific movement. It is not so-called ''yogī'' and ''svāmī'' and everything equal. And where is equality? |
| :satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ | | |
| :yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ | | Guest: The Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is a scientific movement? |
| :namasyantaś ca māṁ bhaktyā | | |
| :nitya-yuktā upāsate | | Prabhupāda: Most scientific. |
| :([[Vanisource:BG 9.14|BG 9.14]]) | | |
| <p>Guest: (Bengali) to realize the Supreme.</p>
| | :''satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ'' |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Realize the Supreme, that is the first and foremost aim, but at the same time, to keep the whole human society in perfect happiness, according to the direction of God. Just like I told you that Kṛṣṇa says, annād bhavanti bhūtāni. If you want to keep the living entities, both men and animal, you must arrange for their nice fooding. Who can deny this philosophy? But they are saying that poverty should be removed, and we must acquire food for the suffering and starving. But what they are doing? They are manufacturing motor tire, the rascals.</p>
| | :''yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ'' |
| | :''namasyantaś ca māṁ bhaktyā'' |
| | :''nitya-yuktā upāsate'' |
| | :([[vanisource:BG 9.14 (1972)|BG 9.14]]) |
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| | Guest: (Bengali: The aim is . . .) to realize the Supreme. |
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| | Prabhupāda: Realize the Supreme, that is the first and foremost aim, but at the same time, to keep the whole human society in perfect happiness. |
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