Reporter (3): Do you think meditation is a way to see the God inside yourself? To see God inside yourself?
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is the description of meditation. Dhyānāvasthita-tad-gatena manasā paśyanti yaṁ yoginaḥ (SB 12.13.1). The yogīs, by their mind concentrating upon God, they try to see Him. So you must know what is God. Just like our institution, they know what is God, description of God. They can think of God. But if you have no idea of God, how you'll think of Him?
Reporter (2): In your books you talk about Brahmaloka, which, I suppose is heaven.
Prabhupāda: No, there are many lokas. Heaven also one of them. Brahmaloka also one of them. Don't you see so many planetary system? So there are innumerable planets. Some of them may be Brahmaloka, Candraloka, Varuṇaloka, Sūryaloka, and so many others. So Brahmaloka is one of the planets.
Reporter (2): So that is actually a physical planet?
Prabhupāda: Don't you see physical planets? The sun is not a physical planet?
Reporter (2): It is.
Prabhupāda: What do you mean by physical?
Reporter (2): Well, actually existing on a material . . .
Prabhupāda: So don't you see existing so many planets, at night, innumerable? What they are?
Reporter (2): Stars and planets, yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Reporter (2): So actually heaven is . . .
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Reporter (2): . . . in this material universe?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Just like when you say: "United States of America," that's actually a place. There are living entities. There are men and mountains, rivers. Everything is there. Similarly, all these planets, they are inhabited by living entities. There are similarly cities and towns and mountains and rivers and oceans. Everything is there—of different pattern. Just like the moon planet. It is . . . the temperature is 200 degree below zero. So you cannot go and live there. But there are living entities who can live there. Just like even on this planet, there are living entities in the Arctic region, but for us it is very difficult to live there. And there are different climatic influences. Even on this planet, one place is suitable for one kind of man, another place is suitable for another.