Pride means if one is too much proud of his acquisition, either educational or material wealth, that means he is in the material platform. This very test. A devotee is never proud. He is humble, humble and meek. Just Lord Jesus Christ also said: "The humble and meek will attain the kingdom of God." Is it not?
So Vaiṣṇava is humble and meek. He is not proud, because . . .
(break) . . . even if he has got great amount of wealth, good qualification, everything, he thinks that, "These things are Kṛṣṇa's. I am His servant. I have got the opportunity to serve Him with this qualification. If I am highly educated, if I have got good knowledge, if I am great philosopher, scientist—everything—if I do not engage all these qualifications to Kṛṣṇa's service, then I shall naturally become falsely proud, and that is the cause of my falldown. I will never be able to approach God, because I am not humble and meek."
But as soon as one engages these qualifications for Kṛṣṇa's service . . . the scientist, he can present so many scientific thesis to prove that there is God. That is his perfection of scientific knowledge.