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| What is the value of our knowledge? Teeny knowledge. Imperfect senses. We are gathering imperfect knowledge. But we don't neglect knowledge. We give credit to the philosophers, scientists, because... But we advise them that "Your research work should be for God, not for any temporary physical or chemical compound. No.". | | What is the value of our knowledge? Teeny knowledge. Imperfect senses. We are gathering imperfect knowledge. But we don't neglect knowledge. We give credit to the philosophers, scientists, because... But we advise them that "Your research work should be for God, not for any temporary physical or chemical compound. No." |
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| So seeing God is very mysterious, but it is very easy also, very easy, provided we know the method how to see God. So that is bhakti-yoga. And therefore Kṛṣṇa recommends in the Bhagavad-gītā , bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ: [[Vanisource:BG 18.55|BG 18.55]] "Only through devotional service one can understand Me as I am." Otherwise he will commit mistake. There are different processes undoubtedly: jñāna, yoga, karma, bhakti. But if you want to see God, then you have to accept this bhakti-yoga, no other yoga. Neither jñāna-yoga, nor karma-yoga, nor haṭha-yoga. You cannot see. You can see. Kleśo 'dhikataras teṣām avyaktāsakta-cetasām [[Vanisource:BG 18.55|BG 18.55]] . Those who are impersonalists... All of them are impersonalists. For them, it is very difficult, troublesome, to see God. They may try their process, but it will take long, long time to see God. But if one takes to bhakti-yoga, immediately... Bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ [[Vanisource:BG 18.55|BG 18.55]] . | | So seeing God is very mysterious, but it is very easy also. Very easy, provided we know the method how to see God. So that is ''bhakti-yoga''. And therefore Kṛṣṇa recommends in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'', ''bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ'': ([[Vanisource:BG 18.55 (1972)|BG 18.55]]) "Only through devotional service one can understand Me as I am." Otherwise he will commit mistake. There are different processes undoubtedly: ''jñāna'', ''yoga'', ''karma'', ''bhakti''. But if you want to see God, then you have to accept this ''bhakti-yoga'', no other ''yoga''. |
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| | So one may argue that "These ''bhaktas'' are not always very learned scholars. Mostly, they are mediocre. And there are so many big, big scholars, they cannot see God easily, and only the ''bhaktas'' can do?" Yes. That is the process. Kṛṣṇa says, ''bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ.'' In ''bhakti'', one can immediately . . . because real process is to surrender to God. That is the real process. But these ''jñānīs'', ''yogīs'' and ''karmīs'', they are not prepared to surrender to God. The ''karmīs'' will say: "Let us act nicely," I mean to say: "virtuously. We are ''karmīs''. So God must give us the result." This is called ''karma-mimāṁsā.'' |
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| | They say that . . . just like the so-called scientists say that, "God has created this universe. The laws are there. So we have to study the laws. What we shall do with the God?" Is it not? "God has created these . . . the physical laws are there. So let us study these physical laws. What is the use of studying God?" That is their view. |
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| | So ''bhakta'' can see God very quickly because Kṛṣṇa recommends, ''bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ'' ([[Vanisource:BG 18.55 (1972)|BG 18.55]]). ''Tattvataḥ'', in truth, one can understand what is God by following the process of ''bhakti-yoga''. And so far the ''jñānīs'', ''yogīs'' are concerned, they will come to that point of ''bhakti-yoga'' after many, many births. That is also stated in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'': ''bahūnāṁ janmanām ante'' ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). At the end of millions of births, ''jñānī'', ''jñānavān'', those who are searching through knowledge . . . |
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| | :''sūktasya buddhasya buddha-dattayoḥ'' |
| | :''avicyuto 'rthaḥ kavibhir nirūpito'' |
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| If you are a jñānī, a philosopher, speculating what is the truth, so the truth is, ultimate truth is Kṛṣṇa. So if from the very beginning you try to search out by your philosophical knowledge or if you try to prove the supremacy of Kṛṣṇa by your philosophical speculation, that is perfection. That is your perfection. Otherwise it is simply laboring, waste of time. Śrama eva hi kevalam [[Vanisource:SB 1.2.8|SB 1.2.8]] . If you cannot go forward up to Kṛṣṇa by your philosophical and scientific research, then all the labor you have taken, that is almost simply waste of time. The limit of knowledge, the limit of scientific research, will be confirmed when you have surrendered to God.
| | ''Śrama eva hi kevalam'' ([[Vanisource:SB 1.2.8|SB 1.2.8]]). If you cannot go forward up to Kṛṣṇa by your philosophical and scientific research, then all the labor you have taken, that is almost simply waste of time. The limit of knowledge, the limit of scientific research, will be confirmed when you have surrendered to God. |
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