Prabhupāda: This is also very good, good in this sense, that they do not eat without restriction. There is some restriction.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: To sacrifice.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That if you want to eat meat and chicken, then you first of all sacrifice before their deity. So at least they'll be restricted from eating meat purchased from slaughterhouse. But this rascal civilization, one side they're advertising, "Stop cruelty to animals," another side they're opening unrestricted slaughterhouse. Just see. One side they're allowing marriage of woman every week, another side contraception. Just see their contradiction. (japa) (break) ...there is animal sacrifice in the church. Is there any such pre...?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Jews, they have got.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. That was one of the things that Jesus was against.
Prabhupāda: Shocked. Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That the Jews were sacrificing animals in the temple. (pause)
Nitāi: Excuse me. (microphone moving)
Prabhupāda: Don't come very near.
Nitāi: I'm sorry. (break)
Prabhupāda: No, no. People will know our position.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Your Guru Mahārāja was also very outspoken?
Prabhupāda: Eh? Oh, yes. (pause) (break) ...that demonstration, "Hoh! Hoh!" They do not...?
Indian man (1): Yes. Only two men is coming. Two only coming.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Two of them do it here, but the big group does it on Chowpatty.
Indian man (1): Chowpatty Way.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Because they live in Woodlands, Warden Road. So they go to Chowpatty.
Indian man (1): They got also own flat, I think.
Indian man (2): No, they are not staying in that same flat where (indistinct) stayed.
Indian man (2): They have their own apartment. They heard, and they have (indistinct). They are barking... (break)
Prabhupāda: ...big animals.
Dr. Patel: I don't think he would say that, so you could... Must have just joking. He's really highly religious man. Yogendra Bhai is the most religious man in the whole group. Eh?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You mean he actually said that?
Dr. Patel: No, he acts, but he's...
Prabhupāda: No, that's all right.
Dr. Patel: There is no question of action. We also act. How much we are religious, only God knows.
Prabhupāda: (japa) (break) ...there is there. Jñāne prayāsam udapāsya namanta eva sanmukharitāṁ bhavadīya (Brahma-stotra).
Dr. Patel: Up to now, I think this is the best part I have run across. One of the best parts. And that, that particular līlā of Kṛṣṇa is the most thrilling one. No?
Dr. Patel: And when Brahmā saw Kṛṣṇa with four..., and Viṣṇu with four hands and all, all, even in cows and boys and calves and everything, then it was the height of the whole philosophy. You have read it?