So the idea is that our dealings in the ordinary . . . when there is fighting, in fighting they take all means, all propaganda, all means, you know that, fighting. One . . . the aim is how to own victory. Although there are so many international laws, they don't care for it. Just like bombing. Bombing . . . sometimes, the opposite party, they keep soldiers under Red Cross . . . (indistinct) . . . because Red Cross is not bombed according to international . . .
But they, they get information and they bomb also. These are common practice. Just like in India, in the Hindu-Muslim fight, the Muslims were keeping weapons within mosque. You know that. Everyone knows. So there so many international law of the fighting, but when there is necessity, they neglect all international law and they take advantage.
So then . . . I have heard from a very reliable officer, Mr. MacPherson, in Allahabad. He was my . . . at that, at that, at that time, I was keeping a drug shop. So he was my customer. And when he was coming, he was talking with me many past stories of the war. So once he narrated—he was also one of the commanders—that the First War, Marshal Foch? He was in Second World War, or First? I think First World War.