Jayapatākā: We were all useless in the West, but you have come and then engaged us.
Prabhupāda: It is Kṛṣṇa's desire. Nobody is useless. I was also useless. I could not do in India alone anything. This is . . . again the same example: (laughs) two useless makes useful. Intelligence alone cannot work. Money is required. One man was challenged, "You have no intelligence." So he said, "Yes." He was searching these . . . "No, why you are searching here?" "No, here is intelligence. If here is money, then my intelligence can work. Otherwise what is the use of intelligence?" But he was searching here, "Whether I have got intelligence?" Simply intelligence . . . in industry also: land, labor, capital, organization—four things needed. Simple capital will not do. Simple organization will not do. A man may have very good brain power, organization, but if he has no money—useless. So four things required: land, labor, capital, organization. That minister in Raṅganātha, he is inclined to spend huge income of Tirupati, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. But he is bound up by other colleagues. They are applying the money. So he's willing to call all the ministers if I can convince them. I shall try it. Just . . . in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, yajñārthe karma. Everyone is karmī. So the karmīs, the village cultivators or big men industrialists, they are going to Tirupati. Whatever then can spare, they are offering. That is yajñārthe. If this money is taken and again if it is brought into karmī, then it is misleading. Karmīs are giving them. Just like people are giving us money. They are karmīs. But because they are giving us and we are engaging the money in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, so the money is fully utilized.