Guest (1): So spiritually they are innocent, comparing with India. We have become complicated after passing through many cultural ups and downs.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Due to these blind leaders. You see Bhagavad-gītā.
Guest (2): But, sir, Gandhi told that "You read Gītā."
Prabhupāda: He did not know himself. (laughs) That is the pity. He has spoken in this Gītā lecture that "My imagination of Kṛṣṇa is different from Bhagavad-gītā." A Kṛṣṇa is a subject matter of imagination. Have you read his lecture on Gītā?
Guest (1): Gītā-pravacana.
Prabhupāda: Eh? Gītā-pra..., is Vinobha.
Guest (1): What students can do? In the topic of..., what students can do?
Prabhupāda: You read Bhagavad-gītā as it is. You read Bhagavad-gītā as it is. Because Gandhi or Vinobha or Vivekananda or Aurobindo, they did not come in the paramparā system. They have made themselves important by their own ideas. That we want to check. Therefore we are presenting Bhagavad-gītā As It Is. You cannot make any amendment or correction in the Bhagavad-gītā. But these people, unfortunately, they take advantage of the popularity of Bhagavad-gītā and give their own comment.
Mr. Pandiya: To suit their purposes.
Prabhupāda: That's all. This is the dangerous... And they are considered as big men, and people follow, and they are misled. Otherwise, in India, so much fallen condition due to these rascal leaders. That I am speaking repeatedly, although it may be very harsh. But we have to say that. Everyone has distorted. Gandhi says Kurukṣetra, "this body." Where is the chance of talking of "this body," the Kurukṣetra? Has he not?
Guest (1): Yes.
Prabhupāda: Where is the dictionary, "the body means Kurukṣetra, and Kurukṣetra means the body."
Guest (1): He has told, karma-kṣetra. Kuru-karma.
Prabhupāda: So you can drag some meaning. That is another thing. But Kurukṣetra is there still.
Mr. Pandiya: That is the Bhagavad-gītā As It Is.
Guest (2): That is interpretation.
Prabhupāda: That is interpretation. Interpretation... Here is a person in the legal way. Interpretation is required when you cannot understand. Is it not?
Guest (2): Interpretation...
Prabhupāda: But when the things are understood very clearly, why interpretation?
Guest (2): It will, rather, confuse.
Guest (2): Suppose I will drag this meaning...
Prabhupāda: This was protested by Caitanya Mahāprabhu vigorously. Why should you interpret?