Prabhupāda: What is business there?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He wants to go where there's a business center.
Prabhupāda: No, business means he must do business in some city.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah. Bombay.
Prabhupāda: Anywhere. Bombay is the best city. He has got facility to stay there. For business Bombay is the best city.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In India.
Prabhupāda: In India. No, world. It is very important city. Export, import, local. Tremendous business possibility there. Many poor men goes and becomes very rich men. Bombay is very important center. You have to get a place by giving bribe, fifty thousand, sixty thousand, to stay there.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They call that huṇḍi.
Prabhupāda: Not huṇḍi.
Bhakti-caru: Pagri.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Pagri, I mean.
Prabhupāda: Pagri, yes. To get a place there . . . Bombay is so important that if you want to get a place you have to pay no less, fifty thousand, lakh of rupees to stand. Then do business. Very important. Anything you do, you must have land first of all to stand. Otherwise what you'll do? To stand in Bombay you have to pay lakh of . . . don't you see—we drive away the tenants—how much we recompense. We pay compensation.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. We have to pay a lot of money . . .
Prabhupāda: That's it.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: . . . so that they can pay for some other place.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's true. Nowadays it's very difficult.
Prabhupāda: This is system in Bombay. Without paying, you cannot get even inch of land.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Trivikrama Mahārāja told me Japan it's getting like that also, Tokyo.
Prabhupāda: Wherever there is scarcity, that is the system.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In America that is not there.
Prabhupāda: America, enough places.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They have paying a few months' rent, but not pagri.
Prabhupāda: There are so many houses. Why they should pay?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah. That's true.
Prabhupāda: Multi-story building. Why people should pay? Now Bombay have got many multi-story building; therefore that demand is reduced. But still, you have to pay in important place pagri, or underhand. What is called?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bribe.
Prabhupāda: Bribe is very bad word. "Under table." (chuckling)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Under the table. Unofficial.
Prabhupāda: Yes, but I am paying on the table hundred rupees and under table two hundred rupees.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, I think you know everything spiritual and material.
Prabhupāda: Hmm? So my fear is that after training our men so much, if he's lost, that's a great loss. Then future of Society becomes very hopeless.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So the principle is that if a householder has outside employment and can pay, then he can live inside our temple building.
Prabhupāda: That's nice. What is the wrong?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: At least for five or six years now the system has been that no man and woman should live together in the same building as where the Deity is.
Prabhupāda: That is the system. Temple is meant for retired men—brahmacārī, sannyāsī, vānaprastha.