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| <div class="heading">So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is meant for creating some real brāhmaṇa. At least, there may be head. They are all mad after the influence of the material energy. So there is need of some brāhmaṇa who can give advice to the people how to live, how to become God conscious, how to become happy. There is great need of this movement. Simply so-called classless society will not help us. That is not Vedic civilization. | | <div class="heading">So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is meant for creating some real brāhmaṇa. At least, there may be head. They are all mad after the influence of the material energy. So there is need of some brāhmaṇa who can give advice to the people how to live, how to become God conscious, how to become happy. There is great need of this movement. Simply so-called classless society will not help us. That is not Vedic civilization. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.2-6 -- Ahmedabad, December 11, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.2-6 -- Ahmedabad, December 11, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So Arjuna says that "I do not like to kill my grandfather or my guru." Not only ordinary guru. Guru is never ordinary. Guru... That I have explained. Never we should consider guru as ordinary human being. Guru means as king is the representative for giving protection to the people, similarly, a guru or brāhmaṇa is also meant for giving protection to the people from spiritual side. The king, kṣatriya, is meant for giving protection to the people from material side. The vaiśya is to produce from the material side. Everything is systematically arranged. So brāhmaṇa means the intelligent class of men, kṣatriya means the administrative class of men, and vaiśya means the productive class of men, and the śūdra means ordinary worker. These divisions are everywhere. You cannot say that only the brāhmaṇas and kṣatriyas and vaiśyas are in India. No. When it is a creation of Kṛṣṇa, or God, it must be everywhere—in every planet, in every country, every city. Because anywhere you go, either in Europe or America, you will find some classes of men, very intelligent class. They are interested in philosophy, science. Similarly, there is a class of men who are interested in politics. They are kṣatriyas you can say. Similarly, there are persons who are interested in making money, vaiśyas. And there are ordinary class of men, they neither brāhmaṇa nor kṣatriya nor... They cannot live independently. Śūdra means he must find out a master. A master. Paricaryātmakaṁ karma śūdra-karma svabhāva-jam ([[Vanisource:BG 18.44|BG 18.44]]). Śūdra's business is to find out a master. Just like a dog. A dog must find out a nice master. Otherwise it is a street dog. Its condition is not very good. Similarly, a śūdra means he must have a nice paying master. Otherwise his life is at risk. So if you consider in that way, the śāstra says, kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ. In this Kali-yuga, everyone is a śūdra. You hardly find a real brāhmaṇa or real kṣatriya or vaiśya. Because they are after service. In the śāstra it is said that a brāhmaṇa, if he is in difficulty, he may take the profession of a kṣatriya or up to a vaiśya, but never take the business of a śūdra like a dog. That is prohibited. And nowadays we are claiming to become brāhmaṇa and going here and there with application, "If there is any vacancy, sir?"</p> | | |
| <p>So these things are topsy-turvied. Simply it has become a farce. Actually if we want to establish Vedic civilization, then we must follow strictly the principles of Vedas as it is described in the Bhagavad-gītā. And if it is practiced, then daiva-varṇāśrama-dharma. That is required. Daiva-varṇāśrama-dharma. There must be the four divisions. Just like we have got four divisions in our body: the head division, the arm division, the belly division, and the leg division. The leg division is the śūdra, the belly division is the vaiśya, and the arm division is the kṣatriya, and the head division is the brāhmaṇa. So these divisions are now lost. Actually, there is no kṣatriya, no brāhmaṇa. Maybe there are some vaiśyas and śūdras. So suppose if your whole body there is only belly and leg, then what is the body? If you have no head and no arm, then how it is? What kind of body it is? So therefore, in the social order of the present day, there is no brāhmaṇa, no kṣatriya. Only there are some few vaiśyas and śūdras. So therefore there is chaos all over the world. So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is meant for creating some real brāhmaṇa. At least, there may be head. They are all mad after the influence of the material energy. So there is need of some brāhmaṇa who can give advice to the people how to live, how to become God conscious, how to become happy. There is great need of this movement. Simply so-called classless society will not help us. That is not Vedic civilization.</p>
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| | So Arjuna says that, "I do not like to kill my grandfather or my ''guru''." Not only ordinary ''guru'' . . . ''Guru'' is never ordinary. ''Guru'', that I have explained—never we should consider ''guru'' as ordinary human being. ''Guru'' means as king is the representative for giving protection to the people, similarly, a ''guru'' or ''brāhmin'' is also meant for giving protection to the people from spiritual side. The king, ''kṣatriya'', is meant for giving protection to the people from material side. The ''vaiśya'' is to produce from the material side. Everything is systematically arranged. |
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| | So ''brāhmin'' means the intelligent class of men, ''kṣatriya'' means the administrative class of men, and ''vaiśya'' means the productive class of men, and the ''śūdra'' means ordinary worker. These divisions are everywhere. You cannot say that only the ''brāhmin''s and ''kṣatriyas'' and ''vaiśyas'' are in India. No. When it is a creation of Kṛṣṇa, or God, it must be everywhere—in every planet, in every country, every city. |
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| | Because anywhere you go, either in Europe or America, you will find some classes of men very intelligent class. They are interested in philosophy, science. Similarly, there is a class of men who are interested in politics. They are ''kṣatriyas'', you can say. Similarly, there are persons who are interested in making money, ''vaiśyas''. And there are ordinary class of men, they neither ''brāhmin'' nor ''kṣatriya'' nor . . . they cannot live independently. |
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| | ''Śūdra'' means he must find out a master. A master. ''Paricaryātmakaṁ karma śūdra-karma svabhāva-jam'' ([[vanisource:BG 18.44 (1972)|BG 18.44]]). ''Śūdra's'' business is to find out a master. Just like a dog: a dog must find out a nice master. Otherwise it is a street dog; its condition is not very good. Similarly, a ''śūdra'' means he must have a nice paying master. Otherwise his life is at risk. So if you consider in that way, the ''śāstra'' says, ''kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ''. |
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| | In this Kali-yuga, everyone is a ''śūdra''. You hardly find a real ''brāhmin'' or real ''kṣatriya'' or ''vaiśya''. Because they are after service. In the ''śāstra'' it is said that a ''brāhmin'', if he is in difficulty, he may take the profession of a ''kṣatriya'' or up to a ''vaiśya'', but never take the business of a ''śūdra'', like a dog. That is prohibited. And nowadays we are claiming to become ''brāhmin'' and going here and there with application, "If there is any vacancy, sir?" |
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| | So these things are topsy-turvied. Simply it has become a farce. Actually if we want to establish Vedic civilization, then we must follow strictly the principles of ''Vedas'' as it is described in the ''Bhagavad-gītā''. And if it is practiced, then ''daiva-varṇāśrama-dharma''. That is required. |
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| | ''Daiva-varṇāśrama-dharma''. There must be the four division. Just like we have got four divisions in our body: the head division, the arm division, the belly division and the leg division. The leg division is the ''śūdra'', the belly division is the ''vaiśya'', and the arm division is the ''kṣatriya'', and the head division is the ''brāhmin''. |
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| | So these divisions are now lost. Actually, there is no ''kṣatriya'', no ''brāhmin''. Maybe there are some ''vaiśyas'' and ''śūdras''. So suppose if your whole body there is only belly and leg, then what is the body? If you have no head and no arm, then how it is? What kind of body it is? So therefore, in the social order of the present day, there is no ''brāhmin'', no ''kṣatriya''. Only there are some few ''vaiśyas'' and ''śūdras''. So therefore there is chaos all over the world. |
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| | So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is meant for creating some real ''brāhmin''. At least, there may be head. They are all mad after the influence of the material energy. So there is need of some ''brāhmin'' who can give advice to the people how to lead, how to become God conscious, how to become happy. There is great need of this movement. Simply so-called classless society will not help us. That is not Vedic civilization. |
