Prabhupada: You talk on reasonable ground, that "You are in favor of giving everyone the same facility. So what do you mean by 'everyone'? Why you are selecting only your countrymen? Why? 'Everyone' means every living being." So what is their answer?
Tamala Krsna: Yes, we agree to spread communism all over the world, and we'll give everyone equal rights.
Prabhupada: That's all right. So equal rights, why not to the animals?
Tamala Krsna: Well, they're not as important, they'll argue. They'll say that they're not as important. They're not so intelligent. They're just animals.
Prabhupada: Animals, but (indistinct) day that there are many men like animals, so why you are giving facility to them?
Tamala Krsna: Because they can be elevated to the point of being men again.
Prabhupada: So elevate them to the right point. Elevate them. You are elevating them only on the platform of eating, sleeping, mating. That is there in the animals. So you have to talk this philosophy. Our philosophy is that expanded - not only human being but animals also. Our philosophy is, if there is one lizard in your room, I should see that he is not starving. This is our philosophy. Not only human being but animals, even an insect. We supply little sugar in the holes of the ant. That is our philosophy. We take any living being is the..., has the same propensity for eating, sleeping. So your economic problem is that "Supply sufficient eating, sleeping." So why not these animals? We have to speak on that platform, that our philosophy is so perfect that we do not neglect even an ant. Make this philosophy. "Why you are limiting within a country or within the human society? Expand it."
Pancadravida: Prabhupada, the Chinese don't neglect ants either. They eat them. The Chinese don't neglect the ants either. They eat everything.
Prabhupada: Then why do they protest when they are eaten by others?
Pancadravida: (aside:) You'll have to add to the regular (indistinct).