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<div class="heading">My Guru Mahārāja wanted to publish Govinda-līlāmṛta. He asked permission of Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura. So first of all Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, "I'll tell you some day." And when he reminded, he said, "Yes you can print one copy. If you are so much anxious to print it, print one copy. You'll read and you will see that you have printed. Not for distribution."
<div class="heading">My Guru Mahārāja wanted to publish Govinda-līlāmṛta. He asked permission of Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura. So first of all Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, "I'll tell you some day." And when he reminded, he said, "Yes you can print one copy. If you are so much anxious to print it, print one copy. You'll read and you will see that you have printed. Not for distribution."
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay|Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Avyabhicāriṇī, yes. Māṁ ca yo 'vyabhicāreṇa bhakti-yogena sevate. Avyabhicāreṇa. Sa guṇān samatītyaitān brahma-bhūyāya kalpate ([[Vanisource:BG 14.26|BG 14.26]]). He is above three guṇas. So if I am still under the modes of material nature, that means I'm not in avyabhicāriṇī-bhakti. This is the warning. Therefore Lord Buddha rejected Vedas.</p>
 
<p>Dr. Patel: Because, sir, in the name of Veda people were misbehaving.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Vedas, when Lord Buddha wanted stop animal killing, these rascals came with Vedas. "Vedas there is sacrifice, there is animal killing." So he thought that these rascals will create botheration. By bringing Vedas, there is... He said, "I don't care for it."</p>
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:veda nā māniyā bauddha haya ta nāstika
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay|Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
:vedāśraya nāstikya-vāda bauddhake adhika
Prabhupāda: ''Avyabhicāriṇī'', yes. ''Māṁ ca yo 'vyabhicāreṇa bhakti-yogena yah sevate. Avyabhicāreṇa. Sa guṇān samatītyaitān brahma-bhūyāya kalpate'' ([[vanisource:BG 14.26 (1972)|BG 14.26]]). He is above three ''guṇas''. So if I am still under the modes of material nature, that means I'm not in ''avyabhicāriṇī-bhakti''. This is the warning. Therefore Lord Buddha rejected ''Vedas''.
<p>Similarly, these rascals are giving evidence of Rūpa Gosvāmī's advice, that "Here is Rādhā-kuṇḍa..." But whether you have followed other things.</p>
 
<p>Guest: Vāco vegaṁ manasaḥ...</p>
Dr. Patel: Because, sir, in the name of ''Veda'' people were misbehaving.
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Vāco vegaṁ manasaḥ krodha-vegaṁ, pṛthivīṁ sa śiṣyāt. Etān vegān yo viṣa... You are manipulated by the udara-vegam, upastha-vegam. First there is test: etān vegān yo viṣaheta dhīraḥ ([[Vanisource:NOI 1|NOI 1]]). Then for him Rādhā-kuṇḍa. Dhīras tatra na muhyati ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]). He has got three dozen sevā-dāsī, and living in Rādhā-kuṇḍa. My Guru Mahārāja wanted to publish Govinda-līlāmṛta. He asked permission of Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura. So first of all Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, "I'll tell you some day." And when he reminded, he said, "Yes you can print one copy. If you are so much anxious to print it, print one copy. You'll read and you will see that you have printed. Not for distribution." So we are printing all these books for understanding properly. Not that "Here is Rādhā-kuṇḍa. Let us go." Jump over like monkey. "Here is rāsa-līlā. Immediately..."</p>
 
<p>Acyutānanda: Even in Kṛṣṇa book rāsa-līlā should not be told in public.</p>
Prabhupāda: ''Vedas'', when Lord Buddha wanted stop animal killing, these rascals came with ''Vedas'': "''Vedas'' there is sacrifice, there is animal killing." So he thought that these rascals will create botheration. By bringing ''Vedas'', there is . . . he said: "I don't care for it." ''Veda'' ''māniyā''.
<p>Prabhupāda: No, why? Kṛṣṇa book must be there, in the book must be there.</p>
 
<p>Acyutānanda: But in public...</p>
:''veda nā māniyā bauddha haya ta nāstika''
<p>Prabhupāda: But you should go gradually. You should go gradually. You first of all understand Kṛṣṇa, then kṛṣṇa-līlā. If you have not understood Kṛṣṇa, then you'll think Kṛṣṇa's rāsa-līlā is just like we mix with young women. And that becomes as polluted. Because they do not understand Kṛṣṇa. Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye yatatām api siddhānām ([[Vanisource:BG 7.3|BG 7.3]]). Kṛṣṇa understanding so easy? If you do not understand Kṛṣṇa how can you go to the Kṛṣṇa's confidential activities?</p>
:''vedāśraya nāstikya-vāda bauddhake adhika''
<p>Acyutānanda: Some of the devotees, they said that it is for liberated souls. So they said, "Well, we are all liberated."</p>
:([[vanisource:CC Madhya 6.168|CC Madhya 6.168]])
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Liberated for going to hell.</p>
 
<p>Devotee: In your Kṛṣṇa book, Śrīla Prabhupāda, you've given such clear explanations along with the stories of Kṛṣṇa that it's very difficult to misinterpret, because you use such clear explanation.</p>
Similarly, these rascals are giving evidence of Rūpa Gosvāmī's advice that, "Here is Rādhā-kuṇḍa mentioned." But whether you have followed other things.
<p>Prabhupāda: No, you read all the books first of all. Then you'll be able to understand.</p>
 
Yaśomatīnandana: ''Vāco vegaṁ manasaḥ'' . . .
 
Prabhupāda: Yes. ''Vāco vegaṁ manasaḥ krodha-vegaṁ, pṛthivīṁ sa śiṣyāt. Etān vegān yo viṣa'' . . . you are manipulated by the ''udara-vegam, upastha-vegam''. But first there is test: ''etān vegān yo viṣaheta dhīraḥ'' ([[vanisource:NOI 1|NOI 1]]). Then for him Rādhā-kuṇḍa. ''Dhīras tatra na muhyati'' ([[vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). He has got three dozen ''sevā-dāsī'', and living in Rādhā-kuṇḍa. My Guru Mahārāja wanted to publish ''Govinda-līlāmṛta''. He asked permission of Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura. So first of all Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, "I'll tell you some day." And when he reminded, he said: "Yes, you can print one copy. If you are so much anxious to print it, print one copy. You'll read and you will see that you have printed. Not for distribution." So we are printing all these books for understanding properly. Not that "Here is Rādhā-kuṇḍa. Let us go." Jump over like monkey. "Here is ''rāsa-līlā''. Immediately . . ."
 
Acyutānanda: Even in ''Kṛṣṇa'' book, ''rāsa-līlā'' should not be told in public.
 
Prabhupāda: No, why? ''Kṛṣṇa'' book must be there. In the book must be there.
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Conversations and Morning Walks

1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

My Guru Mahārāja wanted to publish Govinda-līlāmṛta. He asked permission of Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura. So first of all Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, "I'll tell you some day." And when he reminded, he said, "Yes you can print one copy. If you are so much anxious to print it, print one copy. You'll read and you will see that you have printed. Not for distribution."


Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay:

Prabhupāda: Avyabhicāriṇī, yes. Māṁ ca yo 'vyabhicāreṇa bhakti-yogena yah sevate. Avyabhicāreṇa. Sa guṇān samatītyaitān brahma-bhūyāya kalpate (BG 14.26). He is above three guṇas. So if I am still under the modes of material nature, that means I'm not in avyabhicāriṇī-bhakti. This is the warning. Therefore Lord Buddha rejected Vedas.

Dr. Patel: Because, sir, in the name of Veda people were misbehaving.

Prabhupāda: Vedas, when Lord Buddha wanted stop animal killing, these rascals came with Vedas: "Vedas there is sacrifice, there is animal killing." So he thought that these rascals will create botheration. By bringing Vedas, there is . . . he said: "I don't care for it." Veda māniyā.

veda nā māniyā bauddha haya ta nāstika
vedāśraya nāstikya-vāda bauddhake adhika
(CC Madhya 6.168)

Similarly, these rascals are giving evidence of Rūpa Gosvāmī's advice that, "Here is Rādhā-kuṇḍa mentioned." But whether you have followed other things.

Yaśomatīnandana: Vāco vegaṁ manasaḥ . . .

Prabhupāda: Yes. Vāco vegaṁ manasaḥ krodha-vegaṁ, pṛthivīṁ sa śiṣyāt. Etān vegān yo viṣa . . . you are manipulated by the udara-vegam, upastha-vegam. But first there is test: etān vegān yo viṣaheta dhīraḥ (NOI 1). Then for him Rādhā-kuṇḍa. Dhīras tatra na muhyati (BG 2.13). He has got three dozen sevā-dāsī, and living in Rādhā-kuṇḍa. My Guru Mahārāja wanted to publish Govinda-līlāmṛta. He asked permission of Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura. So first of all Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, "I'll tell you some day." And when he reminded, he said: "Yes, you can print one copy. If you are so much anxious to print it, print one copy. You'll read and you will see that you have printed. Not for distribution." So we are printing all these books for understanding properly. Not that "Here is Rādhā-kuṇḍa. Let us go." Jump over like monkey. "Here is rāsa-līlā. Immediately . . ."

Acyutānanda: Even in Kṛṣṇa book, rāsa-līlā should not be told in public.

Prabhupāda: No, why? Kṛṣṇa book must be there. In the book must be there.