Reporter (3): Your Divine Grace, in a lot of scriptures I read there is a lot of references to breath, and the breath as being the . . .
Prabhupāda: Breathing.
Reporter (3): Breathing . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Reporter (3): . . . it's a source of God. And there are some yogas which concentrate on the breath.
Prabhupāda: Yes. There are different airs within the body, and controlling the airs and putting this soul . . . soul is already floating in the air. So the yogī mystic process can bring the soul from different places, and then they bring it here, and they ascertain where he has to go, and then, from this hole . . . what is called, this hole?
Madhudviṣa: Brahma-randhra.
Prabhupāda: Brahma-randhra we say.
Satsvarūpa: Skull.
Devotee: Cerebellum? Cerebral . . .?
Prabhupāda: There is some hole. From that hole the soul goes out to any planet he likes. That is perfection of yoga. But here in your country the yoga means a certain type of exercise. Yes.
Reporter (2): And this path of devotional yoga, bhakti-yoga, that is the path for this time, for this age?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Bhakti-yoga is the real yoga. You'll find in Bhagavad-gītā, when yoga system is described, the Lord says:
- yoginām api sarveṣāṁ
- mad-gatenāntarātmanā
- śraddhāvān bhajate yo māṁ
- sa me yuktatamo mataḥ
- (BG 6.47)
"The first-class yogī is he who is always thinking of Me," or Kṛṣṇa, "within Himself." He is first-class yogi. So our these students, they are being educated how to think of Kṛṣṇa always, twenty-four hours, without any stop. And that is first-class yoga.
Reporter (2): If you are to think about something, don't you first have to see that thing?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Reporter (2): Well, are you showing your devotees Kṛṣṇa?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, certainly.
Reporter (2): Then what does . . .? Well, what is Kṛṣṇa? What does Kṛṣṇa look like?
Prabhupāda: Then ask them, who has seen already. Ask them. They'll tell you what is Kṛṣṇa. But the same thing: if he says something about Kṛṣṇa, you will accept it?
Reporter (2): Yes.