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In a Bengal, Bengali payar there is a very nice comparison like this, that bara bara ghonai gela rasatal beta gonra bale kata jala. That means . . . you know, the animals, they can swim over the river. So there was a big, overflowing river. So at that time there was no such carrying boats and ships, so everyone had to cross river either by small boats or by swimming.
Bambhārambhe laghu-kriyā. Aja-yuddhe, fighting between two goats. Now, they are very serious about fighting, and somebody comes, (claps) does like this (claps), and they go away. The fighting stops. You see? So bambhārambhe, the attempt is very great, but the effect is little. Aja-yuddhe muni-śrāddhe: "And a ceremony observed by some sages in the jungle . . ." What they have got?


So generally, the animals were allowed to swim over, to cross over the other part, other bank, and men, they took small boats and they would . . . now, there was very good current, so many horses, they swept away by the current. And one lean and thin horse came. He is asking, "Let me know how much water this is." You see?
They have got some leaves and flowers. That's all. What arrangement will be made? And prabhāte megha-ḍambare: "And in the morning, thundering sound of the cloud." And similarly, dam-pate kalahe, I mean to say, war between husband and wife. So these things are to be taken as insignificant.


So similarly, if what was impossible for Arjuna, such a stalwart, such an advanced and, I mean to say, in every respect, and directly a friend of Kṛṣṇa, he is admitting that, "Kṛṣṇa, this process is not possible for me. Oh, I am a military man. I have to look after the administrative affairs. So how can I concentrate my mind in that way which You have prescribed? So it is not possible for me." He flatly denied. He flatly denied.
So, of course, in India the quarrel between husband and wife, nobody cares. Nobody takes very seriously. The husband may complain, the wife may complain. Everyone says: "Yes, yes. That's all right. It will be all right." They never go to court for divorce. You see? (chuckles) But it is . . . there is no seriousness. And actually it is fact. I have seen, I have experienced.


And he never attempted it also, because from the history of Mahābhārata we don't find that Arjuna ever went for meditation of the yoga system. No, never. But still, he was certified by Kṛṣṇa that "You are the only man to understand Bhagavad-gītā. You are the only man." Why? Bhakto 'si: "Because you are My devotee." Priyo 'si ([[Vanisource:BG 4.3 (1972)|BG 4.3]]): "You are My very dear friend." So with such a nice certificate and such favorable condition, still, he refused.
That they divorce, but still, the husband is anxious for the wife, and the wife is anxious for the husband. The divorce is artificial. The husband and wife, the combination, that cannot be cut off. So one should tolerate these things. If there is some misunderstanding, they should not go to the court for divorce. They should tolerate. These are some of the rules for spiritual advancement.


cañcalaṁ hi manaḥ kṛṣṇa pramāthi balavad dṛḍham tasyāhaṁ nigrahaṁ manye vāyor iva suduṣkaram ([[Vanisource:BG 6.34 (1972)|BG 6.34]])
So here it is said that, "Whether this attempt, just like serious attempt, but at the same time it is broken, whether it is like a broken cloud which has no meaning, no rain? That's all. Is it like that?" Apratiṣṭho mahā-bāho vimūḍho brahmaṇaḥ pathi (BG 6.38). Brāhmaṇaḥ pathi means advancement on spiritual success. "So if he is half-hazardly, half-hazardly, halfway he finishes, then what is the result?" Etan me saṁśayaṁ kṛṣṇa (BG 6.39): "I am doubtful about these things." Why?


Vāyor iva: "Just it is impossible to control the hurricane wind, similarly, it is impossible for me to control my mind. It is not possible." Then? How to control the mind? That, the same thing: Kṛṣṇa consciousness. You can control the mind if you fix up your mind always in Kṛṣṇa. That is the only remedy. Sa vai manaḥ kṛṣṇa-padāravindayor vacāṁsi vaikuṇṭha-guṇānuvarṇane ([[Vanisource:SB 9.4.18-20|SB 9.4.18]]).
Now, because if this yoga system . . . now, take for this yoga system which is prescribed. Now, if somebody thinks, "Oh, it was attempted . . . it was prescribed to Arjuna, and he rejected it because it is very difficult. Oh. Never . . . never try for any spiritual. Let us do." No. Arjuna is putting, therefore, this question so that in future people may not be discouraged. May not be discouraged. Therefore he is asking.


That is the only perfect yoga. Our subject matter for today's lecture is perfect yoga. This Kṛṣṇa consciousness is the perfect form of yoga system. That is admitted five thousand years before. At that time there was all circumstances, very good. And in the śāstra also, it is said that:
What is that? Etan me saṁśayaṁ kṛṣṇa: "It is some of the doubts in my mind, Kṛṣṇa." Chettum arhasy aśeṣataḥ: "You will kindly clear my doubts. What happens to this person who does not achieve the pure, I mean to say, highest perfection of success, but half finished or one-fourth finished? Then what happens to them?" Tu . . . tvad-anyaḥ saṁśayasyāsya chettā na hy upapadyate: "I don't think that anyone can eradicate my doubts except You."


kṛte yad dhyāyato viṣṇuṁ tretāyāṁ yajato makhaiḥ dvāpare paricaryāyāṁ kalau tad dhari-kīrtanāt ([[Vanisource:SB 12.3.52|SB 12.3.52]])
Now, bhagavān uvāca. Now, Kṛṣṇa is replying Arjuna what happens to this half-finished, half-finished yogī. Yogī . . . always remember, yogī means either this dhyāna-yogī or jñāna-yogī or bhakti-yogī. Yogī. Yogī does not mean simply those who are meditator. Yogī means the meditator, they are also yogī, and those who are trying to understand the Absolute Truth by philosophical, by theosophical way, they are also yogī. And those who are actually yogī, they are in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So yogī.
 
You'll find in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, Twelfth Canto, Śukadeva Gosvāmī is recommending to Mahārāja Parīkṣit that kṛte yad dhyāyato viṣṇum. In the Satya-yuga, when people used to live for ten millions of years, at that time this yoga system was nice. For that time. Kṛte yad dhyāyato viṣṇum. What was achieved, the success which was achieved in the Satya-yuga by this yoga process of meditation was achieved in the next yuga, Tretā-yuga, yajato makhaiḥ, by offering great sacrifices. And the same success was achieved in the next yuga, Dvāpara-yuga, by worshiping, temple worship. And the same success you can achieve simply by chanting hari-kīrtanam. So this is the perfect form of yoga.
 
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So now, Arjuna flatly says that, "My dear Kṛṣṇa, the process which You have described is very nice process. But so far I am concerned, I admit that it is not possible for me. It is not possible." Now, we have to think that, "What was not possible for Arjuna in such favorable condition, and five thousand years before, how it is possible for me, a teeny living entity, and disturbed by so many things at the present moment. My . . ." Kṛte yad dhyāyato viṣṇum.
 
They used to live for ten millions of years, and it is very difficult to live for fifty years or sixty years at the present moment. Utmost, a man lives up to eighty years. That's all. Then again, we are not such much advanced. We are always disturbed in our circumstances. There is disease; there is war; there is pestilence; there is famine—so many disturbances.
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Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures

If what was impossible for Arjuna, such a stalwart, such an advanced and, I mean to say, in every respect, and directly a friend of Kṛṣṇa, he is admitting that, "Kṛṣṇa, this process is not possible for me. Oh, I am a military man. I have to look after the administrative affairs. So how can I concentrate my mind in that way which You have prescribed? So it is not possible for me." He flatly denied. He flatly denied.

Bambhārambhe laghu-kriyā. Aja-yuddhe, fighting between two goats. Now, they are very serious about fighting, and somebody comes, (claps) does like this (claps), and they go away. The fighting stops. You see? So bambhārambhe, the attempt is very great, but the effect is little. Aja-yuddhe muni-śrāddhe: "And a ceremony observed by some sages in the jungle . . ." What they have got?

They have got some leaves and flowers. That's all. What arrangement will be made? And prabhāte megha-ḍambare: "And in the morning, thundering sound of the cloud." And similarly, dam-pate kalahe, I mean to say, war between husband and wife. So these things are to be taken as insignificant.

So, of course, in India the quarrel between husband and wife, nobody cares. Nobody takes very seriously. The husband may complain, the wife may complain. Everyone says: "Yes, yes. That's all right. It will be all right." They never go to court for divorce. You see? (chuckles) But it is . . . there is no seriousness. And actually it is fact. I have seen, I have experienced.

That they divorce, but still, the husband is anxious for the wife, and the wife is anxious for the husband. The divorce is artificial. The husband and wife, the combination, that cannot be cut off. So one should tolerate these things. If there is some misunderstanding, they should not go to the court for divorce. They should tolerate. These are some of the rules for spiritual advancement.

So here it is said that, "Whether this attempt, just like serious attempt, but at the same time it is broken, whether it is like a broken cloud which has no meaning, no rain? That's all. Is it like that?" Apratiṣṭho mahā-bāho vimūḍho brahmaṇaḥ pathi (BG 6.38). Brāhmaṇaḥ pathi means advancement on spiritual success. "So if he is half-hazardly, half-hazardly, halfway he finishes, then what is the result?" Etan me saṁśayaṁ kṛṣṇa (BG 6.39): "I am doubtful about these things." Why?

Now, because if this yoga system . . . now, take for this yoga system which is prescribed. Now, if somebody thinks, "Oh, it was attempted . . . it was prescribed to Arjuna, and he rejected it because it is very difficult. Oh. Never . . . never try for any spiritual. Let us do." No. Arjuna is putting, therefore, this question so that in future people may not be discouraged. May not be discouraged. Therefore he is asking.

What is that? Etan me saṁśayaṁ kṛṣṇa: "It is some of the doubts in my mind, Kṛṣṇa." Chettum arhasy aśeṣataḥ: "You will kindly clear my doubts. What happens to this person who does not achieve the pure, I mean to say, highest perfection of success, but half finished or one-fourth finished? Then what happens to them?" Tu . . . tvad-anyaḥ saṁśayasyāsya chettā na hy upapadyate: "I don't think that anyone can eradicate my doubts except You."

Now, bhagavān uvāca. Now, Kṛṣṇa is replying Arjuna what happens to this half-finished, half-finished yogī. Yogī . . . always remember, yogī means either this dhyāna-yogī or jñāna-yogī or bhakti-yogī. Yogī. Yogī does not mean simply those who are meditator. Yogī means the meditator, they are also yogī, and those who are trying to understand the Absolute Truth by philosophical, by theosophical way, they are also yogī. And those who are actually yogī, they are in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So yogī.