So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is purifying everyone. This bodily concept of life, "I am Indian," "I am American," "I am Hindu," "I am Muslim," they are forgetting. Just like in our society there are devotees from many religious sects, many countries, but they are nobody in that concept of life. They are purely thinking, "I am servant of Kṛṣṇa." This is bhakti, and this is spiritual platform.
So far the material platform is concerned, then there is already division: an intelligent class of men, the administrator. Just like not all, everyone, is interested taking part in administration. Just like we, at least myself, if you invite me to come to the administration, I'll not interested. We are interested in different thing.
So similarly, naturally there is a division. The intelligent class of man, they like to study philosophy, they like to understand what is the ultimate goal of life, so many things. So intelligent class of men should be engaged in that business. They should not be dragged in other platform. And those who are inclined to take part in politics, administration, that class also should be trained how to rule over the country, how to make satisfied the citizens. They should be trained up, as in business people are trained up.
Now the fault is without being trained, simply by votes one becomes prime minister or home minister, he has no training how to administer, but simply by vote, he occupies a big post. And that is his qualification. But he does not know how to rule over, how to make the people satisfied. Therefore, chaos. Daily everywhere, government is changing. Daily, weekly, this government, that government, that government. Why? Because they are not trained up how to administer. Therefore that is required.
Then, hah . . . tejaḥ. First, first these administrators must be tejaswī, īśvara bhava. Dana yūdhe cha palāyana (Flees from warfield). Now there will be fight, and the administers will sit down on the nice couch, and the common man will fight. Formerly kṣatriya came first of all. Like Arjuna, he is in the front. The other side, Duryodhana is in the front. So the fighter in that, "Oh, my master is there." But there is no kṣatriya. The administration is under the śūdra side. How they can manage? So they must be trained, as in business we give training.
Similarly, those who are going to take up, take up the responsibility of administration, they should be trained. And who will train them? The brahmins, the śāstra, sādhu-śāstra-guru. And those who are common men, they will simply work under their direction. This division is already there; simply the training is not there. Therefore there is chaos.
Dr. Singh: There was a lot of chaos even in the old days when these divisions were there.
Prabhupāda: No, not so.
Dr. Singh: If you look at ancient history, it is one long story of massacres and wars and turmoil.
Prabhupāda: No.
Dr. Singh: If you read Chanakya niti and all.
Prabhupāda: Chanakya niti of course it is about some thousands of years. But so far our Indian history goes, we have . . . we had two wars only, big wars. One war was Rāvaṇa and Rāma, another was between the Kurus and the Pāṇḍavas, after many millions of years passed.
Dr. Singh: So it was recorded war.