Rāmeśvara: Kṛṣṇa says: "I am the father of all living entities." And you were saying, "Who can challenge this or deny it?" Now someone can say that there is contradiction, there is some contradiction in Kṛṣṇa's statement, therefore . . .
Prabhupāda: Who can deny? Who can contradict this? That is my challenge. The contradiction is not valid. Who can contradict it? That is my challenge.
Rāmeśvara: Well, say in some philosophy . . .
Prabhupāda: Just like a father, real father can say: "I am the father." Who can challenge him? Father is one. Who can? Nobody can say: "No, you are not father, he's father." No. The real father is father. Father cannot be replaced.
Rāmeśvara: No.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Suppose real father says: "I am the father of this boy." Who will challenge it?
Rāmeśvara: Someone who does not believe my father.
Prabhupāda: That means he's a rascal. But father cannot be changed. He does not know; he challenges, that's all. But how the father can be changed? Father is one.
Rāmeśvara: We say that Kṛṣṇa is all-good.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: And then the materialist says, "If Kṛṣṇa is all-good, then how is there any evil?"
Prabhupāda: Evil is you.