Devotee (1): They say that each man has his own life to live so he can take the best from many authorities. He can say, "Well, I like some of what you are saying and some of what someone else is saying, so I can take what's best for me in my life."
Prabhupāda: But if I find in one place the best, why shall I take so much trouble? Why do you induce me to go here and there if I get in one place everything?
Satsvarūpa: That's what we found.
Hari-śauri: If I like everything you're saying, then why shouldn't I accept that?
Satsvarūpa: And why should they object if we decide to surrender to one authority?
Prabhupāda: They are asking surrender.
Hari-śauri: They're actually envious because they want everybody to follow their idea of going here and there.
Satsvarūpa: One person said, "This kind of thing reminds me of Hitler's Germany. If there's too much authority or blind following, it's not healthy."
Prabhupāda: No, too much authority if the authority is wrong. But if the authority is right, then it is very better to submit in one place and get everything. Just like we go to some supermarket. We get everything there, we go there.
Hari-śauri: And there's no question of blind following either.
Hari-śauri: Otherwise why would we distribute so many books?
Satsvarūpa: I went to one professor who refused to help us, and he said the reason is, although we may be being persecuted now and we're a small movement, by reading our books and talking to the devotees, he thinks that if we ever did become powerful we would also become intolerant, and we would not allow people to have any other religion. So he said, "Although you're small, I'm afraid to help you."
Prabhupāda: That means he does not understand us.
Satsvarūpa: Is it a fact that if Kṛṣṇa consciousness was the main power, would people be allowed to...?
Prabhupāda: (aside:) Which way? Which way? This way?
Satsvarūpa: In the Vedic culture, are people allowed to follow any other belief? In a society where there is Kṛṣṇa conscious king or president, say someone doesn't want to be a devotee. What happens to him?
Prabhupāda: Devotee... Unless one is devotee, he cannot become Kṛṣṇa conscious. Imaṁ rājarṣayo (BG 4.2). Means king, at the same time...
Satsvarūpa: No. The king, if the king is a devotee, but one of the subjects says, "I still don't believe in Kṛṣṇa, but I want to live here also."
Prabhupāda: So king has the power to chastise him. Just like if this child says, "I don't believe in education," shall I have to accept? He must be punished, because he's a child. He can say, "Father, I don't believe in education. Let me play." Will the father allow? Chastise him. That is king's duty.