Prabhupāda: To eat anything and everything. It is different association. You go to the restaurant, you eat the intestine of pig. I've seen it. Is that anything eatable? But you have learned it on account of association. Kāraṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya (BG 13.22). And if he remains with this Kṛṣṇa conscious, he eats kachorīs, samosā, prepared by Kīrtanānanda Mahārāja. (laughter) It is due to association. By bad association he'll have to eat up to the stool. Go on.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: "One has to rise, therefore, above the three material modes and become situated in the transcendental position. This is called Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Unless one is situated in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, his material consciousness will oblige him to transfer from one body to another because he has material desires since time immemorial. But he has to change that conception."
Prabhupāda: That is material desire, how to become master. From different types, he's trying to become master. Just like in the morning the dogs are barking. He's also thinking master: "Why you are coming here?" Whatever little power he has got, he's asserting his mastership: "Don't come here." The same mentality. Hmm. Then?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: "The best change can be effected only by hearing from authoritative sources. The best example is here."
Prabhupāda: This is the authoritative source says: that you are not master, you are servant. Cultivate this knowledge. Don't try to become a master, falsely. That will never be successful. Remain servant of Kṛṣṇa, you'll be happy. That is the business of spiritual master. He gives the right information; therefore he is respected so much, because he does not cheat. "Yes, you can become master, even God you can become"—this is cheating. The real spiritual master says that "You can never become master. You are always servant."