Prabhupāda: Not absolutely we can abstain immediately, because we have been dependent so long, many, many lives. You cannot. But the ideal should be introduced gradually. And make it perfect more and more and more and more. But there is possibility. Possibility if you live locally and make your arrangement, you get your food . . . the real necessity is, bodily necessity is, eating, sleeping, mating and defending. This is necessity. So if you can eat locally, you can sleep locally, you can have your sex life also locally and you can defend locally, then where is the wrong? These are the necessities. We are not stopping this. We are not stopping, "No more sex life." That is nonsense, another nonsense. You must have. Marry. That's all. So you can marry locally and live. Where is the difficulty? Defend. If somebody comes to attack, there must be men to defend. And eating and sleeping. Where is your difficulty? Manage locally, as far as possible. After all, these are the necessities of body. So it can be solved locally. Is it impossible to solve the bodily necessities? What do you think? Is it impossible?
Satsvarūpa: No, it's very simple.
Prabhupāda: Then do it. Do it. Set example perfectly. (japa) This is nice park. Yes. You can have your park locally. Where is the difficulty? Garden. Fruits, flowers, garden. That is park. Also you can have a pond like this. People are doing that locally, in Bengal especially. Whole Bengal was a garden. It was so nice. Whole Bengal was a garden.
Dhanañjaya: I noticed this when I took the train from Calcutta to Krishnanagar. Once you get further out, it's so nice, the villages. There is the pond there . . .
Prabhupāda: And . . . why Calcutta? You go to the airport, you will find so nice gardens, still existing. Now it is spoiled also, because people have changed locally to the city. Nobody has to take care now.