Bhagavān: There is one United Nations report that very soon venereal disease will reach epidemic proportions all over the world.
Prabhupāda: Yes, it is already. Some fifty years ago . . . you know that Dr. Ghosh?
Bhagavān: Yes.
Prabhupāda: He told me that when he was student, so one professor, Colonel Megar, he described in the classroom—he is Englishman—that, "In our country, 75% of the students, they are infected with venereal disease." So Dr. Ghosh, as a student, "Oh, it is horrible." So he replied: "Why do you say 'horrible'? It is disease. In your country, 90% people are infected with malarial disease. So as a medical practitioner, you should not say that this disease is horrible; that disease is very nice. You cannot say that." That was between them. So this venereal disease, fifty years ago we heard that 75% of students are infected. Now they are advanced; cent percent must be.
Yogeśvara: There was a report in the New York Times that last year alone in the United States there were over 300,000 abortions, and more than two-thirds were performed on girls under twenty years of age.
Prabhupāda: Yes, this is civilization. Poor girls, they are victims. These rascals are enjoying without any responsibility of marriage. And sex impulse is very strong between thirteen years up to thirty years. So people take advantage of it, and the poor girls become victim. So many anomalies. This is a doggish, demonic civilization. This is not civilization at all. They are not interested. They do not know what is the aim of life. First mistake is that, "I am this body." This is doggish. Just like the dog is barking. He is thinking, "I am a big dog here. Don't come." Similarly, if a man thinks, "I am a big American," "I am big Englishman," then what is the difference? The dog is also thinking like that. And Vedic civilization, "No, you are neither dog nor human being. Ahaṁ brahmāsmi: I am spirit soul." This is Vedic civilization. One is being trained up to understand this philosophy, that "I do not belong to this any material condition. I am Brahman, part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa." Where is that conception?
Bhagavān: Now they have . . . the other day in the paper that India exploded its first nuclear bomb.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Bhagavān: That India exploded its first atomic bomb.