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| <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> | | <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> |
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| <div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | | <div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> |
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| <div id="MorningWalkMarch251976Delhi_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="62" link="Morning Walk -- March 25, 1976, Delhi" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 25, 1976, Delhi"> | | <div id="MorningWalkMarch251976Delhi_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="62" link="Morning Walk -- March 25, 1976, Delhi" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 25, 1976, Delhi"> |
| <div class="heading">Why you are serving me? If I had been an ordinary person, why...? You would have not.... Because you accept that "You are devotee," therefore you serve. So as soon as we find a devotee, immediately serve him. Chāḍiyā vaiṣṇava-sevā, nistāra pāyeche kebā. Without serving a devotee, who can be elevated? It is our duty. So we can serve the devotee. | | |
| | <div class="heading">Why you are serving me? If I had been an ordinary person, why...? You would have not... Because you accept that "You are devotee," therefore you serve. So as soon as we find a devotee, immediately serve him. Chāḍiyā vaiṣṇava-sevā, nistāra pāyeche kebā. Without serving a devotee, who can be elevated? It is our duty. So we can serve the devotee. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 25, 1976, Delhi|Morning Walk -- March 25, 1976, Delhi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, the location is very good. It's right in the center. And they have Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa Deities there, plus they have Rāma, Sītā, Lakṣmaṇa, Hanumān, which we can also worship.</p> | | |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.</p>
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| <p>Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Only problem is they have Durgā.</p>
| | <mp3player>https://vanipedia.s3.amazonaws.com/clip/760325MW-DELHI_clip02.mp3</mp3player><br /> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Durgā, so we can worship, giving Durgā the prasādam of Rāma or Kṛṣṇa. That's it.</p>
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 25, 1976, Delhi|Morning Walk -- March 25, 1976, Delhi]]: </span> |
| <p>Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, something can be worked out.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Not directly. His prasāda. If we can worship ordinary human being, why not Durgā? But we give prasādam. We shall give. So don't tell all these things now.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: We do not say that we do not believe in the demigods. No, we believe in. But they are servants. That's all. We cannot make the servant and the master on the equal footing. That is all. We worship Durgā, ''sṛṣṭi-sthiti-pralaya-sādhana-śaktir ekā chāyeva bhuvanāni vibharti durgā'' (BS 5.44). Now, what is the function? ''Icchānurūpam api yasya ca ceṣṭate sā govindam ādi'' . . . She is acting by the desire of the Supreme Lord, Govinda. |
| <p>Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No, I didn't tell him anything.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: We do not say that we do not believe in the demigods. No, we believe in. But they are servants. That's all. We cannot make the servant and the master on the equal footing. That is all. We worship Durgā, sṛṣṭi-sthiti-pralaya-sādhana-śaktir ekā chāyeva yasya bhuvanāni vibharti durgā (Bs. 5.44). Now, what is the function? Icchānurūpam api yasya ca ceṣṭate sā govindam ādi... She is acting by the desire of the Supreme Lord, Govinda.</p>
| | Gurudāsa: Better than we are and should be worshiped. |
| <p>Guru dāsa: Better than we are and should be worshiped.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Eh?</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Eh? |
| <p>Guru dāsa: Better devotee than we are and should be worshiped.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.</p>
| | Gurudāsa: Better devotee than we are and should be worshiped. |
| <p>Ātreya Ṛṣi: As a devotee.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, she's a devotee. Just like we say "prabhu." Prabhu means your master. So "Because you are devotee, we accept you as master." Master means "I am ready to serve you because you are devotee. I am your servant." Dāsa-dāsa-dāsānudāsaḥ ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 13.80|CC Madhya 13.80]]). "Because you are devotee, I am prepared to serve you. Otherwise not."</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. |
| <p>Cyavana: Do the demigods sometimes forget their positions?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Why you are serving me? If I had been an ordinary person, why...? You would have not.... Because you accept that "You are devotee," therefore you serve. So as soon as we find a devotee, immediately serve him. Chāḍiyā vaiṣṇava-sevā, nistāra pāyeche kebā. Without serving a devotee, who can be elevated? It is our duty. So we can serve the devotee.</p>
| | Ātreya Ṛṣi: As a devotee. |
| <p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Why is...</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Prahlāda Mahārāja was offered, "Whatever you like, you take." He said, "No, no, I don't want anything. Please engage me in the service of Your servant." He rejected everything. He simply said, nīja-dāsya-yogam: "Kindly engage me in the service of Your servant." That is wanted.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Yes, she's a devotee. Just like we say "''prabhu''." ''Prabhu'' means your master. So "Because you are devotee, we accept you as master." Master means "I am ready to serve you because you are devotee. I am your servant." ''Dāsa-dāsa-dāsānudāsaḥ'' ([[vanisource:CC Madhya 13.80|CC Madhya 13.80]]). "Because you are devotee, I am prepared to serve you. Otherwise not." |
| <p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, Prahlāda Mahārāja...</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: He did not want even direct service. "Engage me in Your service," he did not say.</p>
| | Cyavana: Do the demigods sometimes forget their positions? |
| <p>Guru dāsa: No.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: He said, "Engage me in Your servant's service."</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Why you are serving me? If I had been an ordinary person, why . . .? You would not have . . . Because you accept that "You are devotee," therefore you serve. So as soon as we find a devotee, immediately serve him. ''Chāḍiyā vaiṣṇava-sevā, nistāra pāyeche kebā'' (''Prema-bhakti-candrikā''). Without serving a devotee, who can be elevated? It is our duty. So we can serve the devotee. |
| <p>Guru dāsa: So if we see people in the world as potential devotees, we should also serve them so they can become good devotees.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: That is not service. That is mercy. One who is potential devotee, to show him mercy, develop him to become a devotee, that is mercy. That is not service. Service can be rendered to the higher person. And to the lower person you can show your mercy.</p>
| | Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Why is . . . |
| <p>Guru dāsa: Oh, that's a good distinction.</p>
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| <p>Hari-śauri: That's said in Upadeśāmṛta...</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Prahlāda Mahārāja was offered, "Whatever you like, you take." He said, "No, no, I don't want anything. Please engage me in the service of Your servant." He rejected everything. He simply said, ''nīja-dāsya-yogam'': "Kindly engage me in the service of Your servant." That is wanted. |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. One who is lower than you, he requires your mercy. You give him mercy. And who is higher than you, you give him service. Not that Vivekananda did, that everyone service. No, service to the higher person. And to the lower person? Mercy.</p>
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| <p>Guru dāsa: Someone asked me the other day if I knew Swami...</p>
| | Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, Prahlāda Mahārāja . . . |
| <p>Prabhupāda: And equal person? Friendship.</p>
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| <p>Guru dāsa: Yes.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: He did not want even direct service. "Engage me in Your service," he did not say. |
| <p>Prabhupāda: With equal, friendship. With higher, service. And with lower, mercy.</p>
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| <p>Guru dāsa: And envious, ignore.</p>
| | Gurudāsa: No. |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, ignore. Neutral: "You go to hell. We don't mind."</p>
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| <p>Guru dāsa: Somebody asked me the other day if I knew Swami Vivekananda. I said "Viveka-who?" He said, "Vivekananda is very famous in the West. Do you know him?" I said, "Viveka-who? I have never heard of him."</p>
| | Prabhupāda: He said, "Engage me in Your servant's service." |
| <p>Prabhupāda: (chuckles) So he was little surprised.</p>
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| | Gurudāsa: So if we see people in the world as potential devotees, we should also serve them so they can become good devotees. |
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| | Prabhupāda: That is not service; that is mercy. One who is potential devotee, to show him mercy, develop him to become a devotee. That is mercy; that is not service. Service can be rendered to the higher person. And to the lower person you can show your mercy. |
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