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| <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> | | <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> |
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| <div class="heading">You can cheat, but it will not be effective. Just see our Gauḍīya Maṭha. Everyone wanted to become guru, and a small temple and "guru." What kind of guru? No publication, no preaching, simply bring some foodstuff. My Guru Mahārāja used to say, "Joint mess," a place for eating and sleeping. | | <div class="heading">You can cheat, but it will not be effective. Just see our Gauḍīya Maṭha. Everyone wanted to become guru, and a small temple and "guru." What kind of guru? No publication, no preaching, simply bring some foodstuff. My Guru Mahārāja used to say, "Joint mess," a place for eating and sleeping. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 22, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation -- April 22, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: What is the use of producing some rascal guru?</p> | | |
| <p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, I have studied myself and all of your disciples, and it's clear fact that we are all conditioned souls, so we cannot be guru. Maybe one day it may be possible...</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Hm.</p>
| | <mp3player>https://vanipedia.s3.amazonaws.com/clip/770422R3-BOMBAY_clip3.mp3</mp3player> |
| <p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...but not now.</p>
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 22, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation -- April 22, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;"> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. I shall choose some guru. I shall say, "Now you become ācārya. You become authorized." I am waiting for that. You become all ācārya. I retire completely. But the training must be complete.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: What is the use of producing some rascal ''guru''? |
| <p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The process of purification must be there.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, must be there. Caitanya Mahāprabhu wants that. Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 7.128|CC Madhya 7.128]]). "You become guru." (laughs) But be qualified. Little thing, strictly follower...</p>
| | Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, I have studied myself and all of your disciples, and it's clear fact that we are all conditioned souls, so we cannot be ''guru''. Maybe one day it may be possible . . . |
| <p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Not rubber stamp.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Then you'll not be effective. You can cheat, but it will not be effective. Just see our Gauḍīya Maṭha. Everyone wanted to become guru, and a small temple and "guru." What kind of guru? No publication, no preaching, simply bring some foodstuff... My Guru Mahārāja used to say, "Joint mess," a place for eating and sleeping. Amar amar ara takana (?)(Bengali): "Joint mess." He said this.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Hmm. |
| <p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That word "mess," by that word he meant eating, messing, eating?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Messing, there is a system. Some clerks, they make a small cooperative hotel. In India there are many.</p>
| | Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: . . . but not now. |
| <p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That I see in South India sometimes... In places like hotels I see.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Yes. I shall choose some ''guru''. I shall say, "Now you become ''ācārya''. You become authorized." I am waiting for that. You become all ''ācārya''. I retire completely. But the training must be complete. |
| <p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Men who work, they all come...</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Cooperative effort.</p>
| | Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The process of purification must be there. |
| <p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So he called that a joint mess, and he said that some of the disciples were doing that.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: He knew that. What is the use?</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, must be there. Caitanya Mahāprabhu wants that. ''Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā ''([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 7.128|CC Madhya 7.128]]). "You become ''guru''." (laughs) But be qualified. Little thing, strictly follower . . . |
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| | Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Not rubber stamp. |
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| | Prabhupāda: Then you'll not be effective. You can cheat, but it will not be effective. Just see our Gauḍīya Maṭha. Everyone wanted to become'' guru'', and a small temple and "''guru''." What kind of ''guru''? No publication, no preaching, simply bring some foodstuff . . . my Guru Mahārāja used to say: "Joint mess," a place for eating and sleeping. ''Khaoa daoar adda khana'': "Joint mess." He said this. |
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| | Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That word "mess," by that word he meant eating, messing, eating? |
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| | Prabhupāda: Yes. Messing, there is a system. Some clerks, they make a small cooperative hotel. In India there are many. |
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| | Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That I see in South India sometimes . . . in places like hotels I see. |
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| | Prabhupāda: Yes. |
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| | Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Men who work, they all come . . . |
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| | Prabhupāda: Cooperative effort. |
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| | Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So he called that a joint mess, and he said that some of the disciples were doing like that. |
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| | Prabhupāda: He knew that. What is the use?</p> |
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