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<div class="heading">No, I don't wish to agitate your mind. I want that if there is any difference, that should be adjusted, and we must preach combinedly. That is my point.
<div class="heading">No, I don't wish to agitate your mind. I want that if there is any difference, that should be adjusted, and we must preach combinedly. That is my point.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 8, 1976, Mayapur|Morning Walk -- March 8, 1976, Mayapur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, no, even giving them away, what is the wrong?</p>
 
<p>Madhudviṣa: Well, you said we should not give the books away. You said we should sell these books.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: (chuckles) No, no, he has purchased. He has purchased. Then if you purchase from me and if you give free to others, so what is my loss?</p>
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<p>Madhudviṣa: No, there is no loss.</p>
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<p>Siddha-svarūpa: I'm not giving away his books.</p>
Guru-kṛpā: I think, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that the difference is that we are willing to spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness according to your instructions, but . . .
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, even if he gives away, this is not a fault, ou see? Suppose there are... In South Africa many Indians are purchasing our books and giving to the library. So somebody will read it. So that is not a fault. If I purchase from you and give it, distribute it free to somebody else, that is not wrong thing.</p>
 
<p>Siddha-svarūpa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, I don't think that there's any difference in philosophical understanding or anything. I think just the basic point that there's different ways of working, in a sense, and I won't...</p>
Prabhupāda: That should . . . That should be. That is the . . .
<p>Prabhupāda: So that should be adjusted, because we have to work. If we make differences amongst ourselves, then how work will...</p>
 
<p>Guru-kṛpā: I think, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that the difference is that we are willing to spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness according to your instructions, but...</p>
Guru-kṛpā: But Siddha . . . they have their own way; they think they can influence people to take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, which is more or less not fully presenting Kṛṣṇa consciousness in a way of complete surrender—in other words, they are keeping hairs and are not full-time devotees, such as we are—to spread it all over the world.
<p>Prabhupāda: That should... That is the...</p>
 
<p>Guru-kṛpā: But Siddha, they have their own way they think they can influence people to take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, which is more or less not fully presenting Kṛṣṇa consciousness in a way of complete surrender. In other words, they are keeping hairs and are not full-time devotees, such as we are, to spread it all over the world.</p>
Siddha-svarūpānanda: You mean they're not surrendered to you personally, Guru-kṛpā. It means they're not working with you personally. Unless somebody accepts you or this person or that person . . .
<p>Siddha-svarūpa: You mean they're not surrendered to you personally, Guru-kṛpā. It means they're not working with you personally. Unless somebody accepts you or this person or that person...</p>
 
<p>Guru-kṛpā: I'm not... No one accepts me.</p>
Guru-kṛpā: I'm not . . . No one accepts me.
<p>Siddha-svarūpa: ...then you get upset.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: No, I don't wish to agitate your mind. I want that if there is any difference, that should be adjusted, and we must preach combinedly. That is my point.</p>
Siddha-svarūpa: . . .then you get upset.
<p>Siddha-svarūpa: There is no... As far as... Well, you have to judge yourself. I can't... As far as I'm concerned, I try to get people to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and distribute prasādam, and as far as possible distribute books freely or for charge.</p>
 
<p>Guru-kṛpā: But the chanting is without surrender to the spiritual master.</p>
Prabhupāda: No, I don't wish to agitate your mind. I want that if there is any difference, that should be adjusted, and we must preach combinedly. That is my point.
<p>Siddha-svarūpa: If I'm trying to get people to chant, that's all I can do. And if that will purify them, then surrender will come. How can I force someone to surrender?</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, what do you mean by surrender?</p>
Siddha-svarūpānanda: So there is no . . . As far as . . . Well, you have to judge yourself. I can't . . . As far as I'm concerned, I try to get people to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and distribute ''prasādam'', and as far as possible distribute books freely or for charge.
<p>Guru-kṛpā: I mean that...</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Not that everywhere you are preaching, you are expected all of them will be surrendered immediately. That is not expected. Suppose you are preaching amongst hundreds and thousands of men. So it is not expected that all of them will be immediately surrendered. Is it possible?</p>
Guru-kṛpā: But the chanting is without surrender to the spiritual master.
 
Siddha-svarūpānanda: If I'm trying to get people to chant, that's all I can do. And if that will purify them, then surrender will come. How can I force someone to surrender?
 
Prabhupāda: No, no, what do you mean by surrender?
 
Guru-kṛpā: I mean that . . .
 
Prabhupāda: Not that everywhere you are preaching, you are expected all of them will be surrendered immediately. That is not expected. Suppose you are preaching amongst hundreds and thousands of men. So it is not expected that all of them will be immediately surrendered.Is it possible?
 
Devotees: No.
 
Prabhupāda: Then?
 
Madhudviṣa: The point is that many of the men that are following the principles strictly, due to his influence have gone away and have slackened their principles. And that is a fact. Like getting up early for maṅgala ārati. That is not stressed so much. And cutting of the hair. That is not stressed so much.
 
Siddha-svarūpānanda: How do you know these things? You have never lived with me, nor have you ever heard a lecture I have given.
 
Madhudviṣa: I have experienced the devotees who have been influenced by you.
 
Prabhupāda: Anyway, whatever is done is done. Now let us make some adjustment (chuckles) and work combinedly. That is my proposal.
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1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

No, I don't wish to agitate your mind. I want that if there is any difference, that should be adjusted, and we must preach combinedly. That is my point.


Morning Walk -- March 8, 1976, Mayapur:

Guru-kṛpā: I think, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that the difference is that we are willing to spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness according to your instructions, but . . .

Prabhupāda: That should . . . That should be. That is the . . .

Guru-kṛpā: But Siddha . . . they have their own way; they think they can influence people to take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, which is more or less not fully presenting Kṛṣṇa consciousness in a way of complete surrender—in other words, they are keeping hairs and are not full-time devotees, such as we are—to spread it all over the world.

Siddha-svarūpānanda: You mean they're not surrendered to you personally, Guru-kṛpā. It means they're not working with you personally. Unless somebody accepts you or this person or that person . . .

Guru-kṛpā: I'm not . . . No one accepts me.

Siddha-svarūpa: . . .then you get upset.

Prabhupāda: No, I don't wish to agitate your mind. I want that if there is any difference, that should be adjusted, and we must preach combinedly. That is my point.

Siddha-svarūpānanda: So there is no . . . As far as . . . Well, you have to judge yourself. I can't . . . As far as I'm concerned, I try to get people to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and distribute prasādam, and as far as possible distribute books freely or for charge.

Guru-kṛpā: But the chanting is without surrender to the spiritual master.

Siddha-svarūpānanda: If I'm trying to get people to chant, that's all I can do. And if that will purify them, then surrender will come. How can I force someone to surrender?

Prabhupāda: No, no, what do you mean by surrender?

Guru-kṛpā: I mean that . . .

Prabhupāda: Not that everywhere you are preaching, you are expected all of them will be surrendered immediately. That is not expected. Suppose you are preaching amongst hundreds and thousands of men. So it is not expected that all of them will be immediately surrendered.Is it possible?

Devotees: No.

Prabhupāda: Then?

Madhudviṣa: The point is that many of the men that are following the principles strictly, due to his influence have gone away and have slackened their principles. And that is a fact. Like getting up early for maṅgala ārati. That is not stressed so much. And cutting of the hair. That is not stressed so much.

Siddha-svarūpānanda: How do you know these things? You have never lived with me, nor have you ever heard a lecture I have given.

Madhudviṣa: I have experienced the devotees who have been influenced by you.

Prabhupāda: Anyway, whatever is done is done. Now let us make some adjustment (chuckles) and work combinedly. That is my proposal.