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<div class="heading">Just like myself, I took initiation from my Guru Maharaja, but I took sannyāsa from a Godbrother who is a sannyāsī. So my original guru is that spiritual master who initiated me, but he's also a śikṣā guru.
<div class="heading">Just like myself, I took initiation from my Guru Maharaja, but I took sannyāsa from a Godbrother who is a sannyāsī. So my original guru is that spiritual master who initiated me, but he's also a śikṣā guru.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco|Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Sannyāsa, there is a ceremony. Just like we have got the initiation ceremony.</p>
 
<p>Hayagrīva: Did He have a spiritual master?</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: So He accepted spiritual... Not spiritual master, but a sannyāsa-guru. That is also master, but he's not spiritual master. But he's also considered as sannyāsa-guru, spiritual master who offers him sannyāsa. Just like myself, I took initiation from my Guru Maharaja, but I took sannyāsa from a Godbrother who is a sannyāsī. So my original guru is that spiritual master who initiated me, but he's also a śikṣā guru. Like that. Teacher. Then His renunciation of householder. He became sannyāsa. Now when He was, after taking sannyāsa, when He was going towards Vṛndāvana, He became always almost mad. So Nityānanda, He was with Him. When He saw that Lord Caitanya is in ecstasy, He misled Him just to... His plan was that "I shall take Lord Caitanya to the house of Advaita, and then I shall call His mother to see Him for the last time. If Caitanya goes away from this very point His mother will not be able to see Him." So out of sympathy He said, "Well, Śrīpāda Caitanya, this is not, this side is not Vṛndāvana. You go..." He just misdirected Him. So... And He sent one man to Advaita to receive Him that "He has taken sannyāsī, just try to make arrangement to receive Him. Then we shall meet." So when He came near the house of Advaita He saw that Advaita was waiting. So then He, I mean to say, came to His sense. "Oh, I am misled? I have come to Advaita's house? How is that Nityānanda? You showed Me this way Vṛndāvana." Then He said, "Oh, wherever You stay, that is Vṛndāvana." Now Advaita says, "All right, please come to my house." So he received Him and took Him there and sent news to His mother that "Your son has now taken sannyāsa. Now if you want to see Him for the last time please come and see." So in this way at Advaita's house He remained for some time. Say about a fortnight. And during that time, in the beginning, His mother came and His mother became so much sorry. That scene you have to describe very nicely. Mother seeing that her son has taken sannyāsa, no more He'll come to house. So (s)he was crying. And Caitanya Mahāprabhu fell on his(her) feet and begged, "My dear mother, yes. This body belongs to you. This body should have been engaged for your service. Unfortunately I've done a mistake. I have already taken sannyāsa. Please excuse Me." In this way. That scene described in the Dilip Kumar's house, that Caitanya is consulting mother, that is a false scene. The actual scene is that after accepting His sannyāsa, His mother came to see Him at Advaita's house.</p>
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Prabhupāda: ''Sannyāsa'', there is a ceremony. Just like we have got the initiation ceremony.
 
Hayagrīva: Did He have a spiritual master?
 
Prabhupāda: So He accepted spiritual . . . not spiritual master, but a ''sannyāsa''-''guru''. That is also master, but he's not spiritual master. But he's also considered as ''sannyāsa''-''guru'', spiritual master who offers him ''sannyāsa''. Just like myself, I took initiation from my Guru Maharaja, but I took ''sannyāsa'' from a Godbrother who is a ''sannyāsī''. So my original ''guru'' is that spiritual master who initiated me, but he's also a ''śikṣā'' ''guru''. Like that. Teacher.  
 
Then His renunciation of householder. He became ''sannyāsa''. Now when He was, after taking ''sannyāsa'', when He was going towards Vṛndāvana, He became always almost mad. So Nityānanda, He was with Him. When He saw that Lord Caitanya is in ecstasy, He misled Him just to . . .
 
His plan was that, "I shall take Lord Caitanya to the house of Advaita, and then I shall call His mother to see Him for the last time. If Caitanya goes away from this very point His mother will not be able to see Him."  
 
So out of sympathy He said: "Well, Śrīpāda Caitanya, this is not . . . this side is not Vṛndāvana. You go . . ." He just misdirected Him. So . . . and He sent one man to Advaita to receive Him, that "He has taken sannyāsī. Just try to make arrangement to receive Him. Then we shall meet."  
 
So when He came near the house of Advaita He saw that Advaita was waiting. So then He, I mean to say, came to His sense, "Oh, I am misled? I have come to Advaita's house? How is that, Nityānanda? You showed Me this way Vṛndāvana." Then He said: "Oh, wherever You stay, that is Vṛndāvana." Now Advaita says: "All right, please come to my house."  
 
So he received Him and took Him there and sent news to His mother that, "Your son has now taken ''sannyāsa''. Now if you want to see Him for the last time, please come and see."  
 
So in this way at Advaita's house He remained for some time. Say about a fortnight. And during that time, in the beginning, His mother came, and His mother became so much sorry. That scene you have to describe very nicely—mother seeing that her son has taken ''sannyāsa'': "No more He'll come to house."
 
So (s)he was crying. And Caitanya Mahāprabhu fell on his (her) feet and begged, "My dear mother, yes. This body belongs to you. This body should have been engaged for your service. Unfortunately, I've done a mistake. I have already taken ''sannyāsa''. Please excuse Me." In this way. That scene described in the Dilip Kumar's house, that Caitanya is consulting mother, that is a false scene. The actual scene is that after accepting His ''sannyāsa'', His mother came to see Him at Advaita's house.</p>
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"Just like myself, I took initiation from my Guru Maharaja, but I took sannyāsa from a Godbrother who is a sannyāsī. So my original guru is that spiritual master who initiated me, but he's also a śikṣā guru"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1967 Conversations and Morning Walks

Just like myself, I took initiation from my Guru Maharaja, but I took sannyāsa from a Godbrother who is a sannyāsī. So my original guru is that spiritual master who initiated me, but he's also a śikṣā guru.


Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco:

Prabhupāda: Sannyāsa, there is a ceremony. Just like we have got the initiation ceremony.

Hayagrīva: Did He have a spiritual master?

Prabhupāda: So He accepted spiritual . . . not spiritual master, but a sannyāsa-guru. That is also master, but he's not spiritual master. But he's also considered as sannyāsa-guru, spiritual master who offers him sannyāsa. Just like myself, I took initiation from my Guru Maharaja, but I took sannyāsa from a Godbrother who is a sannyāsī. So my original guru is that spiritual master who initiated me, but he's also a śikṣā guru. Like that. Teacher.

Then His renunciation of householder. He became sannyāsa. Now when He was, after taking sannyāsa, when He was going towards Vṛndāvana, He became always almost mad. So Nityānanda, He was with Him. When He saw that Lord Caitanya is in ecstasy, He misled Him just to . . .

His plan was that, "I shall take Lord Caitanya to the house of Advaita, and then I shall call His mother to see Him for the last time. If Caitanya goes away from this very point His mother will not be able to see Him."

So out of sympathy He said: "Well, Śrīpāda Caitanya, this is not . . . this side is not Vṛndāvana. You go . . ." He just misdirected Him. So . . . and He sent one man to Advaita to receive Him, that "He has taken sannyāsī. Just try to make arrangement to receive Him. Then we shall meet."

So when He came near the house of Advaita He saw that Advaita was waiting. So then He, I mean to say, came to His sense, "Oh, I am misled? I have come to Advaita's house? How is that, Nityānanda? You showed Me this way Vṛndāvana." Then He said: "Oh, wherever You stay, that is Vṛndāvana." Now Advaita says: "All right, please come to my house."

So he received Him and took Him there and sent news to His mother that, "Your son has now taken sannyāsa. Now if you want to see Him for the last time, please come and see."

So in this way at Advaita's house He remained for some time. Say about a fortnight. And during that time, in the beginning, His mother came, and His mother became so much sorry. That scene you have to describe very nicely—mother seeing that her son has taken sannyāsa: "No more He'll come to house."

So (s)he was crying. And Caitanya Mahāprabhu fell on his (her) feet and begged, "My dear mother, yes. This body belongs to you. This body should have been engaged for your service. Unfortunately, I've done a mistake. I have already taken sannyāsa. Please excuse Me." In this way. That scene described in the Dilip Kumar's house, that Caitanya is consulting mother, that is a false scene. The actual scene is that after accepting His sannyāsa, His mother came to see Him at Advaita's house.