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Just like Dronacarya. He was brahmana, but he became a ksatriya for certain reason. So it is advised that brahmana may take the profession of a ksatriya and up to the vaisya. But if he takes the profession of a sudra, then he is fallen: Difference between revisions

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Brahmānanda: I think the governor was asking about the varṇāśrama college.
Brahmānanda: I think the governor was asking about the ''varṇāśrama ''college.


Prabhupāda: Ah. Varnāśrama college, that training factual brāhmaṇa. And the government should be, as I explained to you, that if one is proclaiming himself as a brāhmaṇa, he must act as a brāhmaṇa. If one is proclaiming as a kṣatriya, he must act as a kṣatriya. Otherwise, there will be no restriction, and a śūdra will claim to be brāhmaṇa. That will create a disturbing situation. In Pṛthu Mahārāja's time it was strictly prohibited that... That is stated in Bhagavad-gītā, sva-dharme nidhanaṁ śreyaḥ para-dharmo bhayāvahaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 3.35|BG 3.35]]). So if one is claiming to be brāhmaṇa, he must be brāhmaṇa, he must become brāhmaṇa. There is another way of reforming the society. And nowadays everyone is a śūdra, and somebody is claiming, "I am brāhmaṇa," "I am kṣatriya," "I am this," "I am that." Formerly the brāhmaṇas strictly following. They would not accept... In the śāstras it is said that the brāhmaṇa in bad time may become a kṣatriya. Just like Dronācārya. He was brāhmaṇa, but he became a kṣatriya for certain reason, and acting like kṣatriya, although he was respected as brāhmaṇa, but he was acting as a kṣatriya. So it is advised that brāhmaṇa may take the profession of a kṣatriya and up to the vaiśya. But if he takes the profession of a śūdra, then he is fallen. Then he is fallen. So this cultural institution should now be introduced. And the other countries, they are still respectful to the Indian culture. That's a fact. I have studied. So if we keep ourself in our, what he has mentioned, saṁsṛti?
Prabhupāda: Ah. ''Varnāśrama ''college, that training factual ''brāhmaṇa''. And the government should be, as I explained to you, that if one is proclaiming himself as a ''brāhmaṇa'', he must act as a ''brāhmaṇa''. If one is proclaiming as a ''kṣatriya'', he must act as a ''kṣatriya''. Otherwise, there will be no restriction, and a ''śūdra ''will claim to be ''brāhmaṇa''. That will create a disturbing situation. In Pṛthu Mahārāja's time it was strictly prohibited that . . . That is stated in ''Bhagavad-gītā'', ''sva-dharme nidhanaṁ śreyaḥ para-dharmo bhayāvahaḥ'' ([[vanisource:BG 3.35 (1972)|BG 3.35]]). So if one is claiming to be ''brāhmaṇa'', he must be ''brāhmaṇa'', he must become ''brāhmaṇa''. There is another way of reforming the society. And nowadays everyone is a ''śūdra'', and somebody is claiming, "I am ''brāhmaṇa''," "I am ''kṣatriya''," "I am this," "I am that." Formerly the ''brāhmaṇas ''strictly following. They would not accept . . . In the ''śāstras ''it is said that the ''brāhmaṇa ''in bad time may become a ''kṣatriya''. Just like Dronācārya. He was ''brāhmaṇa'', but he became a ''kṣatriya ''for certain reason, and acting like ''kṣatriya'', although he was respected as ''brāhmaṇa'', but he was acting as a ''kṣatriya''. So it is advised that ''brāhmaṇa ''may take the profession of a ''kṣatriya ''and up to the ''vaiśya''. But if he takes the profession of a ''śūdra'', then he is fallen. Then he is fallen. So this cultural institution should now be introduced. And the other countries, they are still respectful to the Indian culture. That's a fact. I have studied. So if we keep ourself in our, what he has mentioned, ''saṁsṛti''?


Brahmānanda: Bhāratīya saṁsṛti.
Brahmānanda: ''Bhāratīya saṁsṛti''.


Prabhupāda: Bhāratīya saṁsṛti. It will be very respectfully accepted. Why should we imitate them? That is... Western civilization is not brahminical culture. There is no brahminical culture. And brahminical culture is needed. That is the head. That is the brain. And a little bit of this brahminical culture, because I am distributing and they are accepting it so nicely... So in our India, in a place like Vṛndāvana, Naimiṣāraṇya, like that, many people will come, if varṇāśrama college is established. Of course we, in India, so far I know, nobody will come to be trained up as a brāhmaṇa. (chuckles) They will prefer to be trained up as an electrician and not as a brāhmaṇa. Our Bon Mahārāja, he also tried for a Vaiṣṇava University. He was unsuccessful.
Prabhupāda: ''Bhāratīya saṁsṛti''. It will be very respectfully accepted. Why should we imitate them? That is . . . Western civilization is not brahminical culture. There is no brahminical culture. And brahminical culture is needed. That is the head. That is the brain. And a little bit of this brahminical culture, because I am distributing and they are accepting it so nicely . . . So in our India, in a place like Vṛndāvana, Naimiṣāraṇya, like that, many people will come, if ''varṇāśrama ''college is established. Of course we, in India, so far I know, nobody will come to be trained up as a ''brāhmaṇa''. (chuckles) They will prefer to be trained up as an electrician and not as a ''brāhmaṇa''. Our Bon Mahārāja, he also tried for a Vaiṣṇava University. He was unsuccessful.
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Conversations and Morning Walks

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

Just like Dronācārya. He was brāhmaṇa, but he became a kṣatriya for certain reason, and acting like kṣatriya, although he was respected as brāhmaṇa, but he was acting as a kṣatriya. So it is advised that brāhmaṇa may take the profession of a kṣatriya and up to the vaiśya. But if he takes the profession of a śūdra, then he is fallen. Then he is fallen. So this cultural institution should now be introduced.


Brahmānanda: I think the governor was asking about the varṇāśrama college.

Prabhupāda: Ah. Varnāśrama college, that training factual brāhmaṇa. And the government should be, as I explained to you, that if one is proclaiming himself as a brāhmaṇa, he must act as a brāhmaṇa. If one is proclaiming as a kṣatriya, he must act as a kṣatriya. Otherwise, there will be no restriction, and a śūdra will claim to be brāhmaṇa. That will create a disturbing situation. In Pṛthu Mahārāja's time it was strictly prohibited that . . . That is stated in Bhagavad-gītā, sva-dharme nidhanaṁ śreyaḥ para-dharmo bhayāvahaḥ (BG 3.35). So if one is claiming to be brāhmaṇa, he must be brāhmaṇa, he must become brāhmaṇa. There is another way of reforming the society. And nowadays everyone is a śūdra, and somebody is claiming, "I am brāhmaṇa," "I am kṣatriya," "I am this," "I am that." Formerly the brāhmaṇas strictly following. They would not accept . . . In the śāstras it is said that the brāhmaṇa in bad time may become a kṣatriya. Just like Dronācārya. He was brāhmaṇa, but he became a kṣatriya for certain reason, and acting like kṣatriya, although he was respected as brāhmaṇa, but he was acting as a kṣatriya. So it is advised that brāhmaṇa may take the profession of a kṣatriya and up to the vaiśya. But if he takes the profession of a śūdra, then he is fallen. Then he is fallen. So this cultural institution should now be introduced. And the other countries, they are still respectful to the Indian culture. That's a fact. I have studied. So if we keep ourself in our, what he has mentioned, saṁsṛti?

Brahmānanda: Bhāratīya saṁsṛti.

Prabhupāda: Bhāratīya saṁsṛti. It will be very respectfully accepted. Why should we imitate them? That is . . . Western civilization is not brahminical culture. There is no brahminical culture. And brahminical culture is needed. That is the head. That is the brain. And a little bit of this brahminical culture, because I am distributing and they are accepting it so nicely . . . So in our India, in a place like Vṛndāvana, Naimiṣāraṇya, like that, many people will come, if varṇāśrama college is established. Of course we, in India, so far I know, nobody will come to be trained up as a brāhmaṇa. (chuckles) They will prefer to be trained up as an electrician and not as a brāhmaṇa. Our Bon Mahārāja, he also tried for a Vaiṣṇava University. He was unsuccessful.