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| {{terms|"it is said in the Srimad Bhagavatam, that substance called truth, tattva, those who are jñānīs they think it is formless, and the yogis understand it as Paramatma, and the devotees understand the truth to be Bhagavan"}} | | {{terms|"it is said in the ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', that substance called truth, ''tattva'', those who are ''jñānīs'' they think it is formless, and the ''yogis'' understand it as Paramatma, and the devotees understand the truth to be Bhagavan"}} |
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| So this is the philossophy, tattva-jijñāsā, to understand tattva one must approach a Guru and Visvanath Chakravarti has given the symptoms of a Guru in these eight verses. So the first symptom of a Guru is that he delivers the disciple from this forest fire of material existence. That tattva-vit Guru, one who knows everything, as it said in the Bhagavad Gita, | | So this is the philossophy, ''tattva-jijñāsā'', to understand ''tattva'' one must approach a ''guru'' and Visvanath Chakravarti has given the symptoms of a ''guru'' in these eight verses. So the first symptom of a ''guru'' is that he delivers the disciple from this forest fire of material existence. That ''tattva-vit'' ''guru'', one who knows everything, as it said in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'', |
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| | :''tad viddhi praṇipātena'' |
| :tad viddhi praṇipātena | | :''paripraśnena sevayā'' |
| :paripraśnena sevayā | | :''upadekṣyanti te jñānaṁ'' |
| :upadekṣyanti te jñānaṁ | | :''jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ '' |
| :jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ | | :([[vanisource:BG 4.34 (1972)|BG 4.34]]) |
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| The meaning is that the Guru should be tattva-darśi, because one who has seen the truth (tattva), only he can explain the truth to others. So that tattva-vit Guru, what does he explain, that is stated in the Srimad Bhagavatam, | | The meaning is that the ''guru'' should be ''tattva-darśi'', because one who has seen the truth (''tattva''), only he can explain the truth to others. So that ''tattva-vit'' ''guru'', what does he explain, that is stated in the ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', |
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| vadanti tat tattva-vidastattvaṁ yaj jñānam advayambrahmeti paramātmetibhagavān iti śabdyate([[Vanisource:SB 1.2.11|SB 1.2.11]]) | | :''vadanti tat tattva-vidas'' |
| | :''tattvaṁ yaj jñānam advayam'' |
| | :''brahmeti paramātmeti'' |
| | :''bhagavān iti śabdyate'' |
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| The tattva-vit Guru, the seer of the truth, he knows that the tattva is advaya jñāna (nondual knowledge]]) and one whom someone says Brahman, formless Brahman, someone says Paramatma and someone says Bhagavan.So in the scriptures the tattva or truth is called advaya jñāna, which means that the substance is the same, but is understood by different persons according to their capacity to understand. First one has to understand tattva and then later on tat tvam asi (you are the same). One who has not understood the tattva, what is he going to understand tat tvam asi? That’s why it is said in the Srimad Bhagavatam, that substance called truth, tattva, those who are jñānīs they think it is formless, and the yogis understand it as Paramatma, and the devotees understand the truth to be Bhagavan. | | The ''tattva-vit'' ''guru'', the seer of the truth, he knows that the ''tattva'' is ''advaya jñāna'' (nondual knowledge) and one whom someone says Brahman, formless Brahman, someone says Paramatma and someone says Bhagavan. So in the scriptures the ''tattva'' or truth is called ''advaya jñāna'', which means that the substance is the same, but is understood by different persons according to their capacity to understand. First one has to understand ''tattva'' and then later on tat ''tvam asi'' (you are the same). One who has not understood the ''tattva'', what is he going to understand tat ''tvam asi''? That's why it is said in the ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', that substance called truth, ''tattva'', those who are ''jñānīs'' they think it is formless, and the ''yogis'' understand it as Paramatma, and the devotees understand the truth to be Bhagavan. |
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| | :''vadanti tat tattva-vidas'' |
| :vadanti tat tattva-vidas | | :''tattvaṁ yaj jñānam advayam'' |
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| Those who want to undertand the truth with their material intelligence their run is till the impersonal Brahman, not any further. Because one can get the knowledge about the truth, from one who is the seer of the truth. But if we reach only upto the impersonal formless Braman in search of the truth so that means our knowledge is not complete. | | Those who want to undertand the truth with their material intelligence their run is till the impersonal Brahman, not any further. Because one can get the knowledge about the truth, from one who is the seer of the truth. But if we reach only upto the impersonal formless Braman in search of the truth so that means our knowledge is not complete. |
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| Therefore those who think themselves to be jñānīs, understand impersonal Brahman to be the truth, till they don’t understand Bhagavan Vāsudeva, his knowledge is incomplete. So these impersonalists, brahmajñānīs do a lot of austerities for many many births, try for many births, when he acquires complete knowledge then he understands Bhagavan Vāsudeva. | | Therefore those who think themselves to be ''jñānīs'', understand impersonal Brahman to be the truth, till they don't understand Bhagavan Vāsudeva, his knowledge is incomplete. So these impersonalists, ''brahmajñānīs'' do a lot of austerities for many many births, try for many births, when he acquires complete knowledge then he understands Bhagavan Vāsudeva. |
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