Prabhupāda: Empirical policy was very good, provided it would have been done for Kṛṣṇa. Then they could unite the whole world.
Brahmānanda: They had very good managing talent.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. But the whole thing was planned for their own sense gratification.
Brahmānanda: Exploitation.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: If we ever had any kind of power like that and tried to do something like that, they would accuse that this is like the Crusades.
Prabhupāda: Now, Crusades, even... If they could expand the ideas of Christian, love of Godhead, that was nice. But that was not the purpose. It is exploitation.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Even by force?
Prabhupāda: Yes. By force if you give some good medicine, that is good for him. In my childhood I would not take medicine. Exactly like this, now also. (laughter) So I was given medicine by force in the spoon. Two men will catch me, and my mother would take me on the lap and then force, and I shall take. I never agreed to take any medicine.
Harikeśa: Should we do that now, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Then you'll kill me.