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Prabhupāda: And so far the article Hayagrīva written, it is very nice. It should be published. Yes. I have seen it.
Prabhupāda: And so far the article Hayagrīva written, it is very nice. It should be published. Yes. I have seen it.


Satsvarūpa: That means that we can make reference to the gopīs.
Satsvarūpa: That means that we can make reference to the ''gopīs''.


Prabhupāda: Oh, it is done. Gopīs are boycotted.
Prabhupāda: Oh, it is done. ''Gopīs'' are boycotted?


Satsvarūpa: No, gopīs are not boycotted.
Satsvarūpa: No, ''gopīs'' are not boycotted.


Prabhupāda: The policy should be that the people may not understand gopīs like ordinary girls or like that. You should be careful to present the gopīs. It does not mean that "We shall not utter even the name of gopīs. We have taken vow to boycott the gopīs." No. They are our worshipable devotees. How we can avoid them?
Prabhupāda: The policy should be that the people may not understand ''gopīs'' like ordinary girls or like that. You should be careful to present the ''gopīs''. It does not mean that "We shall not utter even the name of ''gopīs''. We have taken vow to boycott the ''gopīs''." No. They are our worshipable devotees. How we can avoid them?


Satsvarūpa: What about writing down "kissing the lips of Kṛṣṇa"?
Satsvarūpa: What about writing down "kissing the lips of Kṛṣṇa"?


Prabhupāda: No. That we should avoid. That we should avoid. But that is not abominable. According to time and circumstances... That thing I have described. The fact is fact. Just like when I am describing Kṛṣṇa's līlā— I writing Kṛṣṇa's life—so I cannot give up that portion of His life, when Kṛṣṇa is actually kissing the gopīs in rasa dance.
Prabhupāda: No. That we should avoid. That we should avoid. But that is not abominable. According to time and circumstances . . . that thing I have described. The fact is fact. Just like when I am describing Kṛṣṇa's ''līlā''—I writing Kṛṣṇa's life—so I cannot give up that portion of His life, when Kṛṣṇa is actually kissing the ''gopīs'' in ''rasa'' dance.
 
Satsvarūpa: But that's in the books, not in the public . . .  


Satsvarūpa: But that's in the books. Not in the public...
Prabhupāda: Yes. So in such circumstances, of course, we can give. But as far as possible, very cautiously and very rarely we shall present. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's life, we see that in public He never discussed about Kṛṣṇa's ''līlā'' with  ''gopīs''. That was very confidential discussion amongst His own circle, Rāya Rāmaṇanda, Svarūpa Dāmodara, like that. And He inquired . . . even a learned scholar, He discussed about the philosophy, that Sarvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya.  


Prabhupāda: Yes. So in such circumstances, of course, we can give. But as far as possible, very cautiously and very rarely we shall present. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's life we see that in public He never discussed about Kṛṣṇa's līlā with the gopīs. That was very confidential discussion amongst His own circle, Rāya Rāmaṇanda, Svarūpa Dāmodara, like that. And He inquired... Even a learned scholar, He discussed about the philosophy, that Sarvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya. But when there was a great devotee like Rāmānanda Rāya, He relished gopīs', I mean to say, intimate behavior with Kṛṣṇa. So we should remember this, that public may misunderstand this. Therefore we have to present these things very cautiously, not very openly. They may misunderstand. But so far this article is concerned, that is nicely written. That is quite in order. So this should be published.
But when there was a great devotee like Rāmānanda Rāya, He relished ''gopīs''', I mean to say, intimate behavior with Kṛṣṇa. So we should remember this, that public may misunderstand this. Therefore we have to present these things very cautiously, not very openly. They may misunderstand. But so far this article is concerned, that is nicely written. That is quite in order. So this should be published.


Hayagrīva: There is nothing specificially objectionable?
Hayagrīva: There is nothing specifically objectionable?


Prabhupāda: No, no. There is nothing.
Prabhupāda: No, no. There is nothing.


Hayagrīva: Our process thus far has been to halve up the material about 50-50. He takes half, and I'll take a half, and that seems to be working fairly nicely.
Hayagrīva: Our process thus far has been to halve up the material about fifty-fifty. He takes half, and I'll take a half, and that seems to be working fairly nicely.


Prabhupāda: That's all right. But first thing is that when you are in the post of editors, you are supposed to know. But whenever there is some difficulty, either you get it solved by consulting amongst yourselves, or if it is not possible, then refer to me. That's all.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. But first thing is that when you are in the post of editors, you are supposed to know. But whenever there is some difficulty, either you get it solved by consulting amongst yourselves, or if it is not possible, then refer to me. That's all.

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"as far as possible, very cautiously and very rarely we shall present. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's life, we see that in public He never discussed about Kṛṣṇa's līlā with gopīs. That was very confidential discussion amongst His own circle"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1969 Conversations and Morning Walks

In such circumstances, of course, we can give. But as far as possible, very cautiously and very rarely we shall present. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's life we see that in public He never discussed about Kṛṣṇa's līlā with the gopīs. That was very confidential discussion amongst His own circle, Rāya Rāmaṇanda, Svarūpa Dāmodara, like that.


Prabhupāda: And so far the article Hayagrīva written, it is very nice. It should be published. Yes. I have seen it.

Satsvarūpa: That means that we can make reference to the gopīs.

Prabhupāda: Oh, it is done. Gopīs are boycotted?

Satsvarūpa: No, gopīs are not boycotted.

Prabhupāda: The policy should be that the people may not understand gopīs like ordinary girls or like that. You should be careful to present the gopīs. It does not mean that "We shall not utter even the name of gopīs. We have taken vow to boycott the gopīs." No. They are our worshipable devotees. How we can avoid them?

Satsvarūpa: What about writing down "kissing the lips of Kṛṣṇa"?

Prabhupāda: No. That we should avoid. That we should avoid. But that is not abominable. According to time and circumstances . . . that thing I have described. The fact is fact. Just like when I am describing Kṛṣṇa's līlā—I writing Kṛṣṇa's life—so I cannot give up that portion of His life, when Kṛṣṇa is actually kissing the gopīs in rasa dance.

Satsvarūpa: But that's in the books, not in the public . . .

Prabhupāda: Yes. So in such circumstances, of course, we can give. But as far as possible, very cautiously and very rarely we shall present. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's life, we see that in public He never discussed about Kṛṣṇa's līlā with gopīs. That was very confidential discussion amongst His own circle, Rāya Rāmaṇanda, Svarūpa Dāmodara, like that. And He inquired . . . even a learned scholar, He discussed about the philosophy, that Sarvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya.

But when there was a great devotee like Rāmānanda Rāya, He relished gopīs', I mean to say, intimate behavior with Kṛṣṇa. So we should remember this, that public may misunderstand this. Therefore we have to present these things very cautiously, not very openly. They may misunderstand. But so far this article is concerned, that is nicely written. That is quite in order. So this should be published.

Hayagrīva: There is nothing specifically objectionable?

Prabhupāda: No, no. There is nothing.

Hayagrīva: Our process thus far has been to halve up the material about fifty-fifty. He takes half, and I'll take a half, and that seems to be working fairly nicely.

Prabhupāda: That's all right. But first thing is that when you are in the post of editors, you are supposed to know. But whenever there is some difficulty, either you get it solved by consulting amongst yourselves, or if it is not possible, then refer to me. That's all.