Prabhupāda: So if a human being does not become inquisitive to understand what he is, in which way his progress should be made, then he remains a dog. The dog cannot do it. And we have got the capacity. If we neglect this facility and remain like a dog, simply engaged in eating, sleeping, sex and defense, then we remain dog. Then again we become dog. The opportunity was given to us to understand the problems of life, how to solve. If you don't take this opportunity, facility, if you simply remain like dog, then we are next life . . . that also they do not understand, that there is next life. Do you believe in a next life? You, a person, do you believe in a next life?
Justin Murphy: No, I don't.
Prabhupāda: You do not.
Justin Murphy: No.
Prabhupāda: Just see. Now . . .
Justin Murphy: So therefore I'm bad material. (break)
Prabhupāda: " . . . no, I don't believe it."
Justin Murphy: But I will become an old man anyway, in the course of my life.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So therefore there is future life. If you say: "I don't believe in it," . . .
Justin Murphy: Are you talking about reincarnation, life after death?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Reincarnation . . . you are already reincarnated. Where is your that childhood body? Where is that body?
Justin Murphy: Here it is. It's grown.
Prabhupāda: No. No, it is changed.
Justin Murphy: It's grown, it's changed, it's evolved, I have evolved. Just like evolution, I have evolved to the situations . . .
Prabhupāda: Anyway . . . just try to understand. Anyway, that, your boy's body or childhood body, is no longer. Either you say changed or grown, whatever you say, it doesn't matter.
Justin Murphy: But they're the same bones, it's the same skin.
Prabhupāda: But you are the same man. That's a fact. You understand that you were a child or you were a boy, youthful boy, jumping. You remember that body, but that body is not existing. That's a fact.
Justin Murphy: I can't agree.
Prabhupāda: And why not? Suppose somebody had seen your childhood body, and for many years he has not seen you, and he all of a sudden comes. Suppose your father's friend. So father introduces. He says, "Oh, you are the same?" He will be surprised, because he saw you in a childhood body.
Justin Murphy: But I'm less interested in what . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no. First of all think that you have changed your body. The other man says, "Oh, you have grown up?" Or . . . generally they take it as grown up. But the actual position is the body has changed.
Justin Murphy: But they're the same bones. It's the same skin. My face looks just about the same.
Prabhupāda: Not it is same. Medically, it is not the same.