Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda, if Kṛṣṇa is the reservoir of pleasure, then what does He need us for?
Prabhupāda: Mmm?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: If Kṛṣṇa is all blissful, then what . . . we're so, it seems, incapable of pleasing Kṛṣṇa. He's so magnanimous. What does He need us for?
Prabhupāda: He does, He does not ask for Himself. For you. If you
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: 'cause Krsna's kind.
Prabhupāda: If you come to Kṛṣṇa and enjoy with Him, that is your good. He's self-sufficient. He doesn't require.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Sometimes, Prabhu when they see your, your Bhagavad-gītā, they say: "Oh, it is too big for me to read." They don't know that the purport . . . they've never read it.
Prabhupāda: Therefore I say that bring them, let them chant and dance and take prasādam. That, everyone will hear, agree.
Harikeśa: One who does that, he is preaching? One who arranges for chanting and dancing and taking prasādam, that is as good as preaching?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Śravaṇam, kīrtanam, arcanam—anything.
Harikeśa: These festival programs are very important.
Prabhupāda: (pause) You have to spend or waste gallons of blood before you can convert a person to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is so difficult task.
Cyavana: You have to spend . . .?
Prabhupāda: Gallons of blood, waste.
Cyavana: In what way?
Prabhupāda: Mmm?
Cyavana: In what way?
Prabhupāda: By talking with him, with the rascal and foolish.
Cyavana: No, yes, yes, you can just.
Prabhupāda: Your tax your brain and spoil your energy, blood.
Harikeśa: Spend so much food.
Cyavana: So we should do that.
Prabhupāda: Unless you are not a preacher, preach. You should be prepared.
Cyavana: We have to do it. They have to do it.
Prabhupāda: Then . . . yes. They cuts, sacrifices life.
Cyavana: Yes.
Prabhupāda: What to speak of wasting blood. Wasting life . . . not sure who or what is spoken speaking . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: This is preacher. Then he is recognized by Kṛṣṇa, "He has done so much for Me."
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Krsna will give more and more energy.
Prabhupāda: He's going to die for Kṛṣṇa, and therefore he is recognized. Na ca tasmān manuṣyeṣu kaścin me priya-kṛttamaḥ (BG 18.69). You become immediately very dear to Kṛṣṇa. Your business is how to become very intimate to Kṛṣṇa. That will be served by preaching.