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| {{terms|"Whole Vedic civilization is a culture how to stop this material body"|"The Mayavadi philosophers, they are also trying. The Buddhists, they are also trying. But they are thinking that"|"There is no soul. Finish this body"}} | | {{terms|"whole Vedic civilization is a culture how to stop this material body. The Māyāvādī philosophers, they are also trying. The Buddhists, they are also trying. But they are thinking that"|"There is no soul. Finish this body"}} |
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| Prabhupāda: Yes. Everyone is destined to live for a certain period. You cannot prolong it, neither reduce it. | | Prabhupāda: Yes. Everyone is destined to live for a certain period. You cannot prolong it, neither reduce it. |
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| Harikeśa: What about all these sufferings of the body? Let's say one has a toothache or something like that. If... | | Harikeśa: What about all these sufferings of the body? Let's say one has a toothache or something like that. If . . . |
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| Prabhupāda: No. That I have already said, that as soon as you accept this material body, you must suffer. That is the way. | | Prabhupāda: No. That I have already said, that as soon as you accept this material body, you must suffer. That is the way. |
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| Harikeśa: So if you fix one thing, another thing will just go bad? | | Harikeśa: So if you fix one thing, another thing will just go bad? |
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| Harikeśa: The Mormons think they go to heaven in the same body. | | Harikeśa: The Mormons think they go to heaven in the same body. |
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| Prabhupāda: Rascals. Except in India, there is no philosophy.
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| Prabhupāda: There is no knowledge. They are all in darkness. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, para, paropakara. These all rascals, they are in darkness. No knowledge. Don't you see? If they had any knowledge, how they are taking care of an ugly, diseased dog and killing their own child? Is that any knowledge? To maintain child is botheration, to kill. And to maintain three dozen dogs, all ugly and diseased, they are very much enthusiastic. Just see.
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| Prabhupāda: Yes, doglike man's. We don't keep dog. But we don't hate dog also. Let them keep their own position. In India still, they keep dog, but dog is not allowed to enter the room. No. Outside. They are trained up in that way. When food is to be given, they will call, "Come on," and he will take food from outside and go away, always remain outside. Dog is never allowed to enter room or in the house. Outside compound, that's all. Still. No dog is allowed to enter the room and jump over the body of the master and sit down with the seat.
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