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<div class="heading">Keeping life?.. So it's still limited, thirty years, not permanently... Then where is the solution? What is the solution? If after thirty years it is going to be collapsed, then what is the use?... Well, they have no moral. They are killing so many persons. That is killing. That is not... They are expert in killing... You take decision or not, he will be killed. That you cannot say. You are becoming very much moralist, whether to kill, but it will be killed. You cannot save him. That is not possible.
<div class="heading">Keeping life?.. So it's still limited, thirty years, not permanently... Then where is the solution? What is the solution? If after thirty years it is going to be collapsed, then what is the use?... Well, they have no moral. They are killing so many persons. That is killing. That is not... They are expert in killing... You take decision or not, he will be killed. That you cannot say. You are becoming very much moralist, whether to kill, but it will be killed. You cannot save him. That is not possible.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 11, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 11, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Harikeśa: We were wondering, Śrīla Prabhupāda, about all these people they are keeping alive artificially in the boxes. They have so many people in boxes in the hospitals they are keeping alive. So the big battle is raging whether or not they should pull out the plug.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Keeping life?</p>
 
<p>Harikeśa: They have these artificial machines that pump blood and breathe and digest food, and they pump everything into the body and they keep it alive. So all the scientists are wondering if they should pull out the plugs because it wastes so much money.</p>
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<p>Saurabha: There is some disease now that people enter in some coma, and with the machine they keep them alive for thirty years. There's some lady. She is already thirty and the machine since thirty years...</p>
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<p>Prabhupāda: So it's still limited, thirty years, not permanently.</p>
Harikeśa: We were wondering, Śrīla Prabhupāda, about all these people they are keeping alive artificially in the boxes. They have so many people in boxes in the hospitals they are keeping alive. So the big battle is raging whether or not they should pull out the plug.
<p>Saurabha: No, no.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Then where is the solution? What is the solution? If after thirty years it is going to be collapsed, then what is the use?</p>
Prabhupāda: Keeping life?
<p>Devotee (1): But it's the moral problem that they're having, isn't it? Not the sickness, but the moral problem of either killing off one person or letting him continue to survive.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Well, they have no moral. They are killing so many persons. That is killing. That is not... They are expert in killing.</p>
Harikeśa: They have these artificial machines that pump blood and breathe and digest food, and they pump everything into the body and they keep it alive. So all the scientists are wondering if they should pull out the plugs because it wastes so much money.
<p>Saurabha: But they're afraid to take decision. They're very much confused.</p>
 
<p>Harikeśa: They're afraid to take a decision whether to kill them or not by pulling out the plug.</p>
Saurabha: There is some disease now that people enter in some coma, and with the machine they keep them alive for thirty years. There's some lady, she is already thirty machines . . . thirty years . . .
<p>Prabhupāda: You take decision or not, he will be killed. That you cannot say. You are becoming very much moralist, whether to kill, but it will be killed. You cannot save him. That is not possible.</p>
 
<p>Harikeśa: So, they should just keep the machines going?</p>
Prabhupāda: So it's still limited, thirty years, not permanently.
<p>Prabhupāda: No, they should stop this nonsense and save money. That's all. Therefore they are called rascals. It will not be persisting. It is temporary. So why should you spend money? That is intelligence.</p>
 
<p>Saurabha: They have examined those people, and they say they have the same symptoms as plant life.</p>
Saurabha: No, no.
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
 
<p>Saurabha: Not more than that.</p>
Prabhupāda: Then where is the solution? What is the solution? If after thirty years it is going to be collapsed, then what is the use?
<p>Prabhupāda: And in our list the plants are there. Jalajā nava-lakṣāṇi sthāvarā lakṣa-viṁśati. Sthāvara means plants. There are jalaja, aquatics, and sthāvara means plant. All living entities, different forms... Bhagavad-gītā says, sarva-yoniṣu kaunteya ([[Vanisource:BG 14.4|BG 14.4]]). As many forms are there of the living entities. But what are these forms? Forms means the spirit soul is one, and he is covered by these material elements. That is form. So either your form or my form, but the ingredients are the same, bhūmir āpo 'nalo vāyuḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.4|BG 7.4]]). (break) The soul is the same, and the ingredients of the body are the same. That is explained in Iśo..., ekatvam anupaśyate. Just like from gold, take from the mine—you make earring or this finger ring, the ingredients are the same. The forms may be different. (break)</p>
 
Devotee (1): But it's the moral problem that they're having, isn't it? Not the sickness, but the moral problem of either killing off one person or letting him continue to survive.
 
Prabhupāda: Well, they have no moral. They are killing so many persons. That is killing. That is not . . . they are expert in killing.
 
Saurabha: But they're afraid to take decision. They're very much confused.
 
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
 
Harikeśa: They're afraid to take a decision whether to kill them or not by pulling out the plug.
 
Prabhupāda: You take decision or not, he will be killed. That you cannot say. You are becoming very much moralist, whether to kill, but it will be killed. You cannot save him. That is not possible.
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1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

Keeping life?.. So it's still limited, thirty years, not permanently... Then where is the solution? What is the solution? If after thirty years it is going to be collapsed, then what is the use?... Well, they have no moral. They are killing so many persons. That is killing. That is not... They are expert in killing... You take decision or not, he will be killed. That you cannot say. You are becoming very much moralist, whether to kill, but it will be killed. You cannot save him. That is not possible.


Morning Walk -- November 11, 1975, Bombay:

Harikeśa: We were wondering, Śrīla Prabhupāda, about all these people they are keeping alive artificially in the boxes. They have so many people in boxes in the hospitals they are keeping alive. So the big battle is raging whether or not they should pull out the plug.

Prabhupāda: Keeping life?

Harikeśa: They have these artificial machines that pump blood and breathe and digest food, and they pump everything into the body and they keep it alive. So all the scientists are wondering if they should pull out the plugs because it wastes so much money.

Saurabha: There is some disease now that people enter in some coma, and with the machine they keep them alive for thirty years. There's some lady, she is already thirty machines . . . thirty years . . .

Prabhupāda: So it's still limited, thirty years, not permanently.

Saurabha: No, no.

Prabhupāda: Then where is the solution? What is the solution? If after thirty years it is going to be collapsed, then what is the use?

Devotee (1): But it's the moral problem that they're having, isn't it? Not the sickness, but the moral problem of either killing off one person or letting him continue to survive.

Prabhupāda: Well, they have no moral. They are killing so many persons. That is killing. That is not . . . they are expert in killing.

Saurabha: But they're afraid to take decision. They're very much confused.

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Harikeśa: They're afraid to take a decision whether to kill them or not by pulling out the plug.

Prabhupāda: You take decision or not, he will be killed. That you cannot say. You are becoming very much moralist, whether to kill, but it will be killed. You cannot save him. That is not possible.

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