Satsvarūpa: The modern young person thinks, "I don't want someone to tell me the truth. I don't want someone to pick out who my husband or wife is. I want to be free to experiment and find out for myself. Then I'll know."
Prabhupāda: But where is your freedom?
Satsvarūpa: That I don't have someone to tell me what to do. I will learn by my own experience.
Prabhupāda: Then why do you go to school? Huh?
Satsvarūpa: Well, nowadays school also, they don't think that the professor is like their guru.
Prabhupāda: After all, the parents send the children to school to learn. Why not freedom?
Satsvarūpa: Yes. That's a good argument.
Prabhupāda: When you go in your childhood on the street, why the father does not give you freedom? You'll... You get freedom to die, and the parents takes your freedom to save. So which is better, to die or to be saved?
Satsvarūpa: To be saved.
Prabhupāda: So then?
Satsvarūpa: But I need their help when I'm a child. But when I'm sixteen years old, then I...
Prabhupāda: But after all, you had no freedom. Similarly, you are still child because you are speaking like a child.
Hari-śauri: Their conception of freedom is very limited.
Prabhupāda: There is no freedom. Where is freedom? You have to die. Where is your freedom? You don't like to die. But you have to die.
Gurukṛpa: They used to have a slogan, all the hippies: "When I have to die, I'm the one that has to die. So let me live my life the way I want to."
Prabhupāda: What is that? "When I have to die"?
Gurukṛpa: "I have to experience it. Therefore let me live the way I want to. When it's time for me to die, it's my death."
Prabhupāda: But when there is warning of death, why do you fly? You have to die, but when there is warning of death, why you fly? (laughter) Rascal, why you fly? That means you do not want to die. You give this slogan, that "When there is warning of death, why do you fly? You have to die." (laughter) It is a rascal civilization, that's all. Western civilization is a rascal civilization. I do not take they are civilized even. No. White aborigines. That's all. (break) Mahāprabhu says, janma sārthaka kari' kara para-upakāra. In other countries there is no civilization. In India there is civilization. Just you become civilized and distribute this knowledge.