Surendra Kumar: Very nice. They have nothing about . . . nothing of Jana-sangha. They have nothing of R.S.S. They have risen very high. They're now saying that this great country must get the rightful place in the world. Why, with all this spiritual heritage . . .
Prabhupāda: And that should be done.
Surendra Kumar: . . . with all this intellectual power, we should not be . . . we should be with a begging bowl?
Prabhupāda: And that is my mission.
Surendra Kumar: Yes, sir. That's what I'm saying, for the first time. Otherwise nobody would have appreciated in the last government. Who was the person to talk to . . .
Prabhupāda: In the Berkeley University I was speaking. One Indian student got up, and he said, "Swāmījī, what this Hare Kṛṣṇa will do? Now we require technology," like that. (laughter) And "Yes, you have come here to beg technology. You remain beggar. I have come to give something."
Surendra Kumar: Correct, sir. Correct, sir.
Prabhupāda: "I am not a beggar. I have come here to give something," I replied.
Surendra Kumar: Your Divine Grace was right. He wants the best of people.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is . . .
Surendra Kumar: Whom you want to call . . .
Prabhupāda: So you make everything complete today. You busy man . . .
Surendra Kumar: No, it is not necessary to make today. Let him have your full instructions, who are the people . . .
Prabhupāda: (Hindi)
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, we'll prepare a draft and show it . . . read it to you.
Prabhupāda: Take every step, this inquiry. He's experienced.