Prabhupāda: Take the whole world. You have got United Nation; why you are busy about the state?
Hari-śauri: Well, his idea was that Communism should be spread everywhere.
Prabhupāda: This is communism. First of all, you accept one father, or the whole world is father's property, and every living being has a right to enjoy the father's property. Why you are thinking "This portion is Russian," "This portion is American"? It is father's property. So if there is rush in China or India, why not allow them to come to Russia or America? "No. That is my property." What is this philosophy? A father's property, everyone has got right to enjoy the father's property. Can this rascal Marx propose communism on this basis? The animals should be slaughtered. Do the father like that if this son is useless, it cannot do any service, so another big son says, "I'll finish him"? The father will like that? So where is that communism? All selfish motive, that's all. Rascals. And devils citing scripture, philosophy. Rascal citing philosophy. He's a rascal. Let him accept that God is... First of all his business is "No God." His only business is "No God." First of all, mother, father is no needed, that's all.
Hari-śauri: Like that Comte that we were doing...
Prabhupāda: Everyone, all rascals are thinking like this.
Hari-śauri: He was saying that God's existence is imaginary; man is reality, man is supreme.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Because your..., you cannot... Just like our Alfred Ford, he never saw Henry Ford. Then why he says that "I'm the great-grandson of Mr. Ford"? Ford is not there, but why he's claiming Ford's property? Where is Ford? The great-grandson is not expected to see the original establisher of the family. But if there is no philosophy, how they can, any philosophers, all meat-eaters, drunkards, (laughs) woman hunters, and they can be philosophers. (laughs) They're dogs, simply barking. That's all. Simply dogs.
Śukadeva: They say that our philosophy is nice if we can get everyone to follow it, but we will never...
Prabhupāda: Why shall I follow? Why shall I follow? You are limited. Why should I follow your philosophy?
Śukadeva: They say that...
Prabhupāda: They say..., they can say all nonsense, but I have to say something. You accept God the central point, then I accept you. Why you are making state? Then I'll say "I have got my state," then there is fight—American, Russia. That's all.
Śukadeva: People read these philosophies, and they think that they will get knowledge.
Prabhupāda: Knowledge means misguiding knowledge. That's all. That is not knowledge. That is going on. In the name of knowledge, all rascaldom is going on. That is the misfortune of the present world. In the name of knowledge, all rascal "isms" going on. That's all. If we accept... After all, somebody is the Supreme Lord, so He's the father. Why don't you accept that? What is the difficulty?