Udaraṁ-bharatā, the interest. I was speaking of interest. Now, in Kali-yuga, the interest will be if you can eat some day very sumptuously, then your all interest is fulfilled. That's all. (Bengali: Means.) people will be so hungry, so nothing to eat; therefore if they can eat some day very sumptuously, that will be fulfillment of all interest. And satyatve dhārṣṭyam eva hi. And one who will simply play jugglery of words, he will be considered as very truthful. Another, dākṣyaṁ kuṭumba-bharaṇam: one shall be considered very expert if he can maintain his family—wife and children. That means this will be difficult. It has already become difficult. To maintain a wife and a few children, that is also a great burden at the same . . . (indistinct) . . . Therefore nobody wants to marry.
Evaṁ prajābhir duṣṭābhir ākīrṇe kṣiti-maṇḍale (SB 12.2.7). In this way, when all the people will be infected by the poison of Kali-yuga, brahma-viṭ-kṣatra-śūdrāṇāṁ yo balī bhavitā nṛpaḥ. So it doesn't matter whether he is a brāhmaṇa or a kṣatriya or vaiśya or śūdra or caṇḍāla. One who is powerful in getting votes, he will occupy the presidential post or the royal post. Just see. Formerly the system was that not the brāhmaṇa, er, vaiśya or śūdra can occupy the royal throne. Only the kṣatriyas. Now, in the Kali-yuga, there is no such thing, who is kṣatriya, who is a brāhmaṇa, who is a . . . anyone, hook and crook you get your votes, democracy, and occupy . . . and whatever you may be—you may be rascal number one—but you will be posted on the supreme exalted presidential post. Then:
- prajā hi lubdhai rājanyair
- nirghṛṇair dasyu-dharmabhiḥ
- ācchinna-dāra-draviṇā
- yāsyanti giri-kānanam
- (SB 12.2.8)
Now, these classes of men who goes to the government post by votes, mostly they are . . . their qualification is lubdhai rājanya, greedy government men. Nirghṛṇair dasyu-dhar . . . their business is plundering. Their business is plundering you. We actually see that they are, every year they are exacting heavy tax, and whatever money is received, they divide amongst themselves, and the citizens' condition remains the same. In every government we can see like that. Prajā dasyu-dharmabhiḥ. In this way, gradually, all people will be so much harassed, ācchinna-dāra-draviṇā, that they will like to give up their family life. Ācchinna. Dāra. Dāra means wife, and draviṇā means money. Ācchinna-dāra-draviṇā yāsyanti giri-kānanam. They will go in the forest. Then these symptoms are also there.