Prabhupāda: Vṛndāvana, there are so many dangerous. All these bābājīs, they are . . . "Oh, I am not going out of Vṛndāvana." But he has got connection with so many women. So what is the use? Have you experience of this? He's attached to women and doing all sinful activities in Vṛndāvana, and he's a devotee. "He cannot go out of Vṛndāvana." This is going on, manufacturing biḍi, smoking biḍi, in the dress of Rūpa Gosvāmī—loincloth, big tilaka, kaṇṭhi. And what he's doing? Biḍi-making. Have you seen?
Pṛthu-putra: I have seen some of them doing this, yes.
Prabhupāda: Not all of them. But they are also claiming they're on the stage of Rūpa Gosvāmī. And we are preaching—we are lower stage. That is their opinion. We are preaching all over the world; we are in the lower stage.
Pṛthu-putra: This is what the . . . (indistinct) . . . say.
Prabhupāda: And because he has imitated the dress of Rūpa Gosvāmī, mālā, tilaka, and he's manufacturing biḍi—he's higher. This is going on.
Pṛthu-putra: Oh, I see.
Prabhupāda: Therefore Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura has condemned these rascals—that kali-celā, "the disciple of Kali." Ei ota eka kali-celā: "Here is a disciple of Kali." Who? Nāke tilaka galāi mālā. And sahajiyā bhajana kache mamu, saṅge lana pare bala. He has tilaka and mālā, and sahajiyā, with other girls he's making parakīyā-rasa-bhajana. Kali-celā. Ei ota eka kali-celā. So we have to guided by our predecessor ācāryas. Then we shall be saved. Otherwise we are condemned.
Pṛthu-putra: So when certain boys experience difficulties and they come to . . . because . . .
Prabhupāda: What difficulty? What is the difficulty?
Pṛthu-putra: Well, for example . . .
Prabhupāda: We have got everything clearly stated, that we observe these regulative principle, chant minimum sixteen rounds and act as far as possible for the service of the Lord. Where is the difficulty?
Pṛthu-putra: Maybe the realization may not be there.
Prabhupāda: What is that realization? This is the prescribed duty. So there is no question of realization. You must do it.
Pṛthu-putra: Yes. They must do; and they do also. They also do it.
Prabhupāda: Then where is the doubt? "Let me go on with my duty." That's all. "Why I shall be disturbed by so many things? Let me see whether I am discharging my duties properly." That's all.