Prabhupāda: So where is question of atmosphere influence? Suppose there is rock and sand and always hot weather. That does not mean there cannot be any life. The life is never affected by all these things. Make propaganda about this knowledge. People will understand that Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is not joking, it is something serious. That boy was saying that these scientist, they know me. What is this boy's name, this boy said about the so-called astronomer, scientist? Who was this boy?
Pradyumna: Who came last night?
Hari-śauri: One of our boys, American boy, that tall boy.
Parivrājakācārya: Jñānagamya.
Pradyumna: Here in this temple?
Hari-śauri: Yes. Jñānagamya. He used to work with some science research as well. (indistinct comments about Jñānagamya)
Parivrājakācārya: The scientists are like all materialists. They think if we have not seen it . . .
Prabhupāda: (coughing heavily) You have to see from the book. Seeing from the book is real seeing. What you can see with these blunt eyes? I have seen in these navigators. They see in the different plans and books, and they direct their ship or airplane accordingly. How can he see where we are going?
Hari-śauri: Just like they land an aeroplane.
Prabhupāda: Yes. They have got all plans and direction, and altitude, latitude and everything, which direction is going on in front of the pilot. So everything is there. In what position the plane is there, how high it is and how low it will be, where it is—everything. On that direction they can fly. Otherwise, what they can see with the eyes? Utmost ten miles, and it is running at six hundred miles? What ten miles will do them? So śāstra-cakṣuṣā. Authoritative literature should be the eyes, not these blunt eyes. What is the value of these eyes? Now here is authority: nainaṁ dahati pāvakaḥ. You should go to the school, colleges, and from Bhagavad-gītā give them real knowledge. The whole world is in darkness, and these rascals are guiding them.
(pause)
Prabhupāda: You have tasted the barā? Nim barā?
Pradyumna: This morning.
Prabhupāda: Huh? Did you like it?
Parivrājakācārya: It tasted very healthy.
Prabhupāda: Healthy?
Parivrājakācārya: Healthy.
Prabhupāda: Healthy? What is that?
Parivrājakācārya: It tasted like it was good for me.
Hari-śauri: That means it didn't taste very nice, but we accepted it was good.
Parivrājakācārya: I know by my intelligence that it is good to keep eating, even though my tongue was saying "Stop."
Prabhupāda: No, this neem is good. They say that if you eat at least two leaves of neem daily, you'll never lose your appetite. Appetite will be continuing.
Hari-śauri: Who can eat two leaves of neem? (laughing)
Prabhupāda: No, if you practice, it is not impossible.
Pradyumna: I ate them one time. Remember in Bombay, I thought I had worms? You told me to eat nim?
Prabhupāda: Effective? What happened?
Pradyumna: Well, I didn't notice anything happened, but it was very, very bitter, so bitter.
Prabhupāda: So that worms cured or not?
Pradyumna: I don't know. Sometimes I think I have worms.
Prabhupāda: You should not eat sweet.
Parivrājakācārya: You cannot get neem in Iran. I have never seen a neem tree in Iran.
Prabhupāda: No tree, simply desert. Where is tree? All desert. All this Middle East, desert. So they can be allowed to eat meat. Otherwise, how for they'll eat? Everyone must eat something. So if there is no vegetation, if there is no sufficient, they can be allowed.