Harikeśa: Well, we can solve the problem of birth by just killing all the children.
Prabhupāda: (laughing) That is not solving. The birth is already there; therefore you are killing. (laughter)
Akṣayānanda: Birth is still there.
Prabhupāda: No. Because there is birth, therefore you are killing. So birth problem is not solved.
Harikeśa: No, no, no. We're killing before birth.
Prabhupāda: What is "before birth"? The child is already there.
Harikeśa: No, no. The child is not born until it leaves the mother's womb.
Prabhupāda: Ah. That is you rascal you can say. Unless he has (sic) no life, how it is growing? Such a rascal. . .
Harikeśa: It's a lump.
Prabhupāda: . . .they cannot understand. Does a dead child grow? Never. Simply speaking nonsense.
Harikeśa: That's their whole argument for abortion.
Prabhupāda: That's all right, but. . .
Harikeśa: You just finished it. (laughing)
Prabhupāda: . . .but our point is, the birth problem is not solved. If there are unwanted population, you kill them, that does not mean the population problem is solved.
Hari-śauri: They're not actually seeing the actual causes of the problems.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Hari-śauri: They're not seeing the actual causes of the problems, so they're trying to adjust to them.
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Hari-śauri: They're simply trying to make so many adjustments to the problems, but they are not solving the cause.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That adjustment is not solution.