Dayānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda, it seems as though in the modern scientific idea, so-called scientific idea, is that everyone should have his own individual intelligence, develop himself.
Prabhupāda: That Kṛṣṇa also is allowing you, yathecchasi tathā kuru (BG 18.63). Deliberate, Kṛṣṇa is giving you. But who is accepting? That you have got your own intelligence.
Dayānanda: But I mean rebelliousness. Everyone should . . .
Prabhupāda: So whatever you like, you can do. Kṛṣṇa says that you have got intelligence. "You consider. I have spoken to you. Now you use your intelligence and do whatever you like." Kṛṣṇa does not deny your intelligence. There is no meaning. You have got your intelligence. That is your . . .
Dayānanda: The training is not . . .
Prabhupāda: Training, you take Kṛṣṇa's training. If you don't take, then you remain in your own training. Kṛṣṇa is training you. He says, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām (BG 18.66), but if you don't take His training, then you remain in your own training. Who objects? Remain a rascal. Who objects? You continue to become a rascal. What can be done? That yathecchasi tathā kuru is already said. You use your intelligence. If you prefer to remain rascal, you remain. Kṛṣṇa does not say that, "Don't use your intelligence." What does He say? But if you are actually intelligent, then you will think that "Who can be more intelligent than Kṛṣṇa? Let me take His advice." That is real intelligence. Why shall I use my tiny intelligence? That is real intelligence.
Nandarāṇī: Kṛṣṇa was speaking to Arjuna, and Arjuna had real intelligence, but nowadays if someone tries to consider Kṛṣṇa's instructions and deliberate fully and make some decision, he always makes the wrong decision.
Prabhupāda: No, therefore he has to accept spiritual master to guide him.