Prabhupāda: Yes. Now take some contribution and purchase one temple. (laughs) The saṅkīrtana's party's responsibility is increasing. Just find out some person, and give us a temple.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I found someone who will give us a big garage, but it's not a temple. A nice man.
Prabhupāda: Never mind garage. Let him begin. We shall sit down there in garage. He's giving for good or...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. He is volunteering. He's a businessman who has started to chant.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's very nice.
Prabhupāda: So let him give us and we shall make our temple there in the garage. Where it is?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He says it's nearby here. He said fifty people can come in.
Prabhupāda: Oh, that's all right.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He said we should hold kīrtana there now.
Prabhupāda: And immediately.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, he's suggested it.
Prabhupāda: So do it immediately. It is Kṛṣṇa's grace. Never mind garage. We shall turn hell into heaven. (laughter)
- nārāyaṇa-parāḥ sarve
- na kutaścana bibhyati
- svargāpavarga-narakeṣv
- api tulyārtha-darśinaḥ
- (SB 6.17.28)
Svargāpavarga, heaven or the Brahman effulgence, or hell, all these are equal to a devotee. A devotee does not make any distinction because he has always within his heart Kṛṣṇa. So either he goes to hell or heaven, it doesn't matter. You see? If Kṛṣṇa goes with him then it is no longer hell. (laughs) Just like īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe 'rjuna tiṣṭhati (BG 18.61). The Lord as Supersoul is in everyone's heart, so He's in the heart of the hog or He is in the heart of the worm in the stool. Does it mean Kṛṣṇa is living in the stool? No. Wherever He lives, He lives in Vṛndāvana. That is His inconceivable potency. He can live everywhere, but He does not live there. He lives in Vṛndāvana. Goloka eva nivasaty akhilātma-bhūtaḥ (Bs. 5.37). So it doesn't matter whether it is garage or anything. If somebody is voluntarily offering that, immediately accept that. We shall sit down there, and fifty people can sit. It is sufficient. We can decorate it nicely. Immediately. Near this place?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, he says it's nearby here.
Prabhupāda: Very good.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's a very nice man. He started to chant when he came to our other temple, and every day he chants while he goes to work...
Prabhupāda: Very good.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...when he's walking the street.
Prabhupāda: So he is devotee.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He said he was smoking two and a half packs of cigarettes. Now he only smokes three or four. Soon he will stop.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) You see? How practical. Yes. This is practical. One of my Godbrothers, he narrated his life history, that he was distilling wine for drinking. And he said that all kinds of intoxicants he has passed. He is graduate of all kinds of intoxication. (laughs) But when he came to Guru Mahārāja, he left everything. He has not even smoking a biḍi, cigarette. Pāpī tāpī yata chilo, hari-nāme uddhārilo, tāra sākṣī jagāi mādhāi. The witness is Jagāi and Mādhāi. So you accept it.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He'll have to call me. He said he would call tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Very good.