Prabhupāda: Śāstra-cakṣuṣāt. Your eyes should be through the śāstra, not by manufacturing ideas. So śāstras says this.
- yasya prabhā prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi-
- koṭiṣv aśeṣa-vasudhādi-vibhūti-bhinnam
- tad brahma niṣkalam anantam aśeṣa-bhūtaṁ
- govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
- (Bs. 5.40)
This is śāstra, Brahma-saṁhitā, that "This brahma-jyotir is the bodily rays of Kṛṣṇa. Govinda." So the rays of Govinda is not so important as Govinda is important. Govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi. And Govinda personally says, ahaṁ sarvasya... Sarvasya means everything, including Brahman.
Guest (2): With all due respect, I was talking of Brahman.
Prabhupāda: I am speaking of Brahman. Brahman means this brahmajyoti. You mean that. Yes, I am speaking that. This brahmajyoti...
Guest (2): Īśvara is different from Brahman?
Prabhupāda: Īśvara everyone. But īśvara parama is Kṛṣṇa.
Guest (1): Parameśvara.
Prabhupāda: Parameśvara. There is two words. One is īśvara; one is parameśvara. You may be īśvara. You may be īśvara in your business. So many workers are working under you, and you are ordering, you are regulating, but you are not parameśvara. Similarly, you take each and every one, up to Brahma. They may be īśvara, but he's not a parameśvara. Parameśvara is one. Mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat (BG 7.7). That is Kṛṣṇa.