Author: Sir, I am not seeking to persuade people that it is a nice movement. I am seeking to describe it as it is.
Prabhupāda: No, no, describe, but you cannot describe better than us. Is it not a fact?
Author: Sir, Back to Godhead and the other books are not . . .
Prabhupāda: Because we know our business, therefore we are describing our facts very nicely. You are outsider.
Author: That's right.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So you cannot place our, I mean to say, pros and cons so nicely.
Author: Sir, I think we are talking about two different things. I think you . . .
Prabhupāda: You, you wanted little history of this movement? I have given you. That you can create. Yes. How the movement is going on, you can . . . but we cannot spoil our time in that way, that I describe the biography of a person.
Author: Right.
Prabhupāda: In our books there is no biography of anyone. That biography is not that you . . . we are interested in the philosophy.
Author: Well, I, erm . . .
Prabhupāda: If this . . . the philosophy, vijñāna. It is called vijñāna, science. If you want to know what is the science of this movement, we can spare day and night to convince you. But these are superficial. First of all we say that, "I am not . . . we are not this body." So why we shall be interested with the history of this body?
Author: Sir, I, with respect, I am now talking about offering some information about the movement, not on the movement's behalf and not for the movement's benefit, but to the general public. Now, among this information, a substantial proportion of this information will be about the movement's philosophy. I shall make an earnest, and I think . . .
Prabhupāda: That is nice.