Prabhupāda: Conference is going on, big conference, and our Jawaharlal Nehru has imitated, that in the conference there are different languages, different . . . but if somebody is speaking in any language you'll hear it in your own language. Remember? In New Delhi he has done that. This rascal thought, "Now I am finished, I have done my duty." All rascals. (japa) Thus our definition, that anyone who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious, he's either in these four groups, bās, final. You just try to prove it. Hmm? Kīrtanānanda Mahārāja? You have any doubt about it?
Kīrtanānanda: No.
Prabhupāda: Anyone?
- na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ
- prapadyante narādhamāḥ
- māyayāpahṛta-jñānā
- āsuraṁ bhāvam āśritāḥ
- (BG 7.15)
Do it very nicely. Push Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement vigorously. (japa) If you keep the people in ignorance like dogs and hogs, what is the value of advancement of knowledge? So many universities? (japa) But discuss this point, our charge; explain to them, and let someone defend them, someone talking for, and let him decide.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ?
Prabhupāda: Hmm. Whether this is fact. It is fact, but even if we do not accept it, what is the wrong there, find out. We don't find any wrong, everything. Because Kṛṣṇa said it, then it's all right.